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Trump was not informed of a recent Ukrainian attack on Russia, The Hill’s sister network NewsNation confirmed Sunday.

According to NewsNation’s Tanya Noury, an administration official said the president was not given a heads-up about the drone attack that a Ukrainian security official alleged destroyed more than 40 planes well within Russian territory, according to The Associated Press.

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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago

That’s because trump is a national security risk.

[-] Schumus@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

International security risk

[-] TwistedCister@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

International man of Pisstory.

[-] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Trump is a global security risk.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago

Yeah why would you tell the enemy of your plans?

[-] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago

Yeah, its pretty typical not to give war plans to an enemy state.

[-] Hayduke@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago

Well yeah. The intention was for the attack to succeed.

[-] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is a ridiculous headline.

If this was "Heads of UK, Germany, and France were informed ahead of Ukraine attack; Trump left in the dark" it'd be a different story.

As it stands, there's no reason to think this is anything but clickbait. The real story is the military operation. Don't mention him unless it's actually relevant.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the sanity check. I wouldn't think Ukraine's top brass would notify any world leaders of an impending attack, especially one that took so long to plan and with such high stakes. Give me one reason they would?!

[-] smayonak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Up until now the Ukrainian military conferred with the USA as to what targets to strike. The us provided a great deal of intelligence.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

But this isn't the first time Ukraine kept a military operation in secret.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I remember in Trump's last presidency, Dutch security services hacked into a Russian hacking group that (IIRC) hacked amongst other things he DNC. They even had access to security cameras, and could follow everything being said and done. The info was shared to help the US government secretly defend itself but trump used it immediately for some political bullshit

This directly caused the Dutch operation to be detected and they were kicked out

The director of the Dutch intelligence agencies then, in an interview, mentioned that as of that moment they would no longer share everything with the US as it had become an unreliable partner.

I'm pretty sure this decision is still in effect with this administration. Trump is the US 's worst enemy

[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 31 points 1 week ago

That's a bit unfair. trump is the world's worst enemy.

[-] JASN_DE@feddit.org 57 points 1 week ago

That seems to be the safer option.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Not like he pays attention during important international security meetings anyways. All they need to do is make the power point more than 3 slides long and more than 45 words.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

"We are currently clean on OPSEC"

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

We are currently clean on OPSEC

the level of stupidity involved with formulating this sentence still gives me pause. What the actual fuck are you trying to say, Hesgeth or whatever idiot on the signal chat.... do you really think you're 'clean' on 'opsec' IN FUCKING SIGNAL?

they heard the term opsec from one of their security detail and wanted to jam it in there because it sounded cool.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Plus; why even say it? The assumption is you're clean on opsec until you know you aren't. You still don't say anything more than absolutely necessary where it might get picked up. It's like saying "we're still breathing oxygen". When that changes, you'll know, because all hell breaks loose.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

My hypothesis is that it was intentional because they thought it would make it look like they were badasses, instead of the absolute shed of toolboxes that they are.

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[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

That's why it worked.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Trump is one of the blyats, why would Zelenskyy inform him?

[-] HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago
[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

It seems Donald is beginning to learn that he can't sustainably approach foreign policy and diplomacy as if he's ordering up a Big Mac.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago
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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nor should he ever be. Putins puppydog is not on the n2k lists. He just doesn't have the cards

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Was Trump informed that he is a nitwit and a jackass and should be in prison?

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Just put him in a truman show-style mental hospital, he's gonna love it and never give it a second thought. Or...maybe that's what the WH has become at this point...

[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I heard they were thinking about turning the presidential daily brief into either cartoons or a fake news channel stream just to get him to pay attention.... So yeah, Truman show Whitehouse sounds eerily plausible

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[-] hefejefe@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

Can’t have that information leak to Putin.

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What about trickling down to Putin?

[-] reddwarf@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

Putin does the trickling down on trump

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[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

According to the latest reports, he still doesn't know they happened because he regularly doesn't attend his own security briefings. Not to worry though, he'll be fully briefed this evening when Fox and Friends covers it tonight.

[-] supamanc@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

If Trump expects to be informed of Ukrainian intentions, they should exploit his hubris - use him to spread disinformation and divert Russian attention away from true targets.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do that a couple times to the point the Russians don't believe it, and then use the correct targets expecting the Russians to protect the other nearby targets like last times instead.

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[-] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Holy fucking hell the entitlement.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

CMD Taco Krasnov can suck it.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

I just came to up vote everyone. Or I up voted everyone and then I cam....anyway, yeah this is great! Let's hope. Never lose hope. I hope for a quick end to this stupid war and also the one in Gaza.... But not that quick.. Not nuclear quick. Just you know, like pace deal quick... Capture all the nazis and give them a proper sea burial quick type of quick. How about the other planes this week?

[-] Lanusensei87@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

That's why it worked.

[-] doc@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago
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Trump would have tweeted the plans about five seconds after he told Putin so probably for the best.

[-] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Nor should he be. Ever.

[-] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

U mean special operation right

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Oh no, now he's gonna throw a hissy fit about how he wasn't added to the telegram group where they plan the big bada booms :'(((

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Trump never attends his breefings, so he's never informed.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thankfully that means someone in the chain of command knows what the fuck they're doing and rightfully kept this rotted nutsack away from actionable intel. When you know someone is compromised or a spy, you cut them out of the loop while feeding them Intel you want your enemy to have.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Honestly this attack was so insane I don't know how Russia could have done anything about it, even if Trump leaked it at the final hour.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

It was being prepared for 1.5 years, from what I've heard, so there was a lot to moving parts that could have been screwed up if the information was leaked. At the final hour - maybe not much could have been done to prevent it, but it would have been significantly harder to extract Ukrainian operatives who were involved within Russia.

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