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[-] ViewSonik@lemmy.world 173 points 11 months ago
[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 117 points 11 months ago

According to billionaire Anthony Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

[-] QHC@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago

Such a weird thing to volunteer, especially for someone that is supposedly a 'master negotiator'. The hook was set and line was being pulled back. The sell was done!

It might not be the #1 rule of sales, but pretty close to the top is "once you've closed the deal, stop talking".

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 91 points 11 months ago

There was a congressman who gleefully told the press on WWII that the Japanese were setting their depth charges too shallow.

The IJN picked up on this of course and adjusted accordingly. This is pretty much the same if not worse.

[-] Artoink@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago

Andrew May

It's estimated his loose lips sank 10 ships and killed 800 servicemen.

Unrelated, he was convicted of accepting bribes as a Congressman. He gave a lucrative contact to a company with no experience producing munitions, then opened a lumber business and sold that same munitions company excessively expensive crates as the way to receive his kickback. The reason is came to light was because the munitions company produced defective artillery shells that prematurely exploded and killed at least 38 soldiers. Served 9 months before Truman pardoned him.

[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 11 months ago

When it comes to selling shit, trump is pretty good at it.. when it comes to keeping shit secret, trump is a walking, secret spilling megaphone.

But hey, we got some sweet submarines out of it! Thanks guys!

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Trump is really good at selling shit, but anything actually useful not so much. He's a con artist, always has been. His true calling in life is parting morons from their money, and that's about it. Although even in that regard he's had some pretty spectacular failures. He did after all manage to bankrupt a casino, something notoriously hard to fuck up as long as you can do some pretty basic statistics. He's basically a slimy used car salesman who inherited a lot of money and who half paid attention to the lessons his equally slimy but actually dangerously smart father taught him.

Fred Trump was a real piece of work, a true slum lord, and far too clever to get caught in the many illegal schemes he had running (mostly tax fraud, but I'm sure he had plenty of other scams going). Donald Trump on the other hand is barely literate, has the attention span of a gnat, and is such a raging narcissist that if his name isn't mentioned for more than 10 minutes he loses interest and checks out. His military advisors literally sprinkled his name throughout their reports just to get him to read the damn things, something that in retrospect was probably a mistake as we'd all likely be safer if they hadn't.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago

Time for some more indictments it sounds like.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Put them over there on the pile.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago

So tired of this asshat having NO consequences for all he's done.

And the howler monkeys in his party would actually have this shitead as Speaker? The GOP is anti-American.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

The GOP is anti-American.

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

Well played.

[-] socialjeffwarrior@lemm.ee 58 points 11 months ago

He should be in jail at this very moment. Every minute that passes and he isn’t punished, makes our justice system more feckless.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

I don’t think he knows actual real information. Probably spouted spurious info to make him sound good.

Remember, this is the guy who thought the F35 was actually invisible.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He had 100s of top secret documents post presidency, and was gleefully waving them around at people. We know some of them were war plans.

Its also common for presidents to be briefed about some matters after they leave office.

Messy or mostly wrong, he still likely provided some accurate and dangerous information to a foreign national.

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[-] BeMoreCareful@lemdro.id 19 points 11 months ago

This is probably a pretty good point. His mouth and any fact seldom meet.

A lot of people are saying that.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

you don't have to know every detail if you have the classified documents and are sharing what you have

[-] kowcop@aussie.zone 51 points 11 months ago

This guy seems like a bit of a dickhead

[-] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

I know what you mean. I was unsure about him but this one event has changed my opinion

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Lock him the fuck up. Fucking traitor.

[-] zik@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

Sounds like treason to me.

When's someone going to have the balls to charge him with it, and then sentence him to death for it?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Treason is very narrowly defined in the Constitution and Trump will almost certainly never be charged with it.

As Australia is not a military enemy of the US, treason is absolutely off the table here.

This is, however, definitely a felony. Maybe he can hit an even 100.

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[-] bemenaker@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's not treason, it's espionage, and it still can carry a very lengthy solitary stay in leavenworth.

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[-] hogunner@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

While this doesn’t excuse this treasonous idiot’s actions, I feel like nobody with half a brain would believe any specifics Trump recalls from memory about anything, let alone classified information.

“Our subs each contain 3 million nukes, that’s more than any other country. Some people say they hold the most nukes in history even going back hundreds of years. And they can get this close [Trump holds hand up with his finger and thumb an inch apart] to a Russian sub without being seen. It’s true, they’re so quiet you can hear the waves splashing without even seeing them. They could sneak up on you right now as you sit here and you’d never know. Truly incredible, the best at sneaking.”

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That was my first thought as well - our best hope here is that the details weren't written in crayon with lots of pictures and "TRUMP SUB" peppered throughout.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago

So that is super definitely illegal. You leave the office, and the protections it affords leave with you. I hope the DoJ nails him for this, but I really don’t expect them to. Clearly that would be diViSIvE

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

The first one is bad enough, but the second is legitimately putting members of our armed forces in danger.

You know, I'm starting to think that having a foreign intelligence asset serve as president for 4 years was a bad idea.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Who had “literal treason” on their trump crimes bingo card?

Edit: I set the bar too low, that’s on me

[-] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago

Umm.. everyone? That’s the free space on trump bingo.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Dog, I marked that one years ago

[-] Venutianxspring@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah man that's been the free square for a while now

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[-] theotherone@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Since 2016.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

You'd have to be an idiot not to.

Besides, if that were the only remaining unmarked square in a line, I'd have already declared "bingo" and argued the point a while ago.

[-] Venutianxspring@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure we're playing blackout at this point

[-] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Biggest threat to democracy today? North Korea? Putin? Nope, it's the Trump family

Edit: The threat to democracy was coming from inside the house! Ahhhhh! (Phone call from inside the house ghost story reference)

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Of course he did. Jesus Christ is anyone surprised about anything this traitorous orange mother fucker did/does?

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, I hope anyone underwater right now doesn't get these updates. Talk about a blow to morale.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I imagine the generals would bring action figures to help him understand. Leading to a Lord Helmet esque playtime anytime Trump was alone in the office.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

No sir I didn't see you playing with your dolls again.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Loose lips sink ships. He should be on his knees and thankful that it is not war time.

[-] DrMango@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In the USA it's always wartime baby 🇺🇸 😎 🇺🇸

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

President Trump (...) has always insisted on truth and transparency

Lol not the best statement when accused of sharing secrets.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Shove his traitorous orange ass into a dirty solitary cell and throw the key in the ocean

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The cell too tbh

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