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Thanks for stepping up. Hopefully you guys can improve the quality of this community. Right now it mostly tabloid-esque articles that appeal to people's hate boners. Not much political substance.
Well this sub is fucked.
Did you even look at their post histories or just add the first people to volunteer?
One of them is running around this sub right now arguing for the dismantling of public education because they didn't enjoy highschool
Edit:
The top mod started pming me...
Apparently he just accepted the only people who said they wouldn't remove disinformation because that would primarily effect "the right"
Only two did and we chose them, wish we had more not trying to censor the right since some were saying “I’ll remove disinformation and etc.” Which violates one of our policy in giving the right a voice since look disinformation may be bad, but removing them is censorship and our goal is not to reform that echo chamber that was r/politics
https://i.imgur.com/0Maach1.jpg
This community is fucked.
No one is going to become a mod here unless they agree to let people spread propaganda...
20 years old, no job, far right and emotional unstable. I think we got the perfect candidate!
I'm not far-right. I have a job.
https://lemmy.world/comment/1093566
Yeah I guess. I've only been able to get internships- good internships. But I've never been able to get a real job
Maybe I misinterpreted that.
What's with all the comments about closing public schools and calling clearly fascist movements as "christian moralists".
Currently working a good internship. Also, talk about stalking!
Edit: I also never advocated closing public schools. I advocated making them voluntary.
Edit 2: I have also been offered a few jobs but are not feasible for me since I want to live near my partner.
I wouldn't consider it stalking but a background-check.
This community could (/will) become the biggest political forum on the web. Wouldn't you want to know who moderates it?
You can go through my post history, nothing to hide. I don't consider it stalking but a feature.
We will follow your journey with great interest.
Of course you're free to, it's just I'd argue a rude thing to do to instead of judging someones actions you criticized them for being vulnerable in a completely different context days ago.
I mean how else people's gonna know who has the moral high ground am I rite
I wouldn’t consider it stalking but a background-check.
And why does dissent automatically fail the background check in your book?
"They're not christofascists, they're Christian moralists" ^^1 is a disturbingly far right position post Charlottesville, Dobbs, and all the state laws persecuting trans people that have been passed recently.
I will say, I haven't seen a moderation level action yet that seems horribly wrong, but I feel like that's only going to be a matter of time
^^1 Paraphrased, not a direct quote
e; I apparently can't figure out superscript text
The Charlottesville people are largely fascists, but they also don't have that much influence in American politics. Dobbs is not a fascist position. I personally support abortion access- but there is nothing in the Constitution to protect it. As for state laws persecuting trans people I actually have looked that much into what's passed, I've just seen rhetoric. Can you point me to some of the laws that're chrisofascist?
The Charlottesville people are largely fascists
They were all fascists, and everything else you said is, at best, so deeply ignorant that I don't think I've got the time or mental energy to point out how dumb and dangerous this refusal to see what should be obvious to everyone is. I strongly encourage you to step down as a moderator of this community and strongly encourage anyone who approved your being made a mod to do the same.
They were all fascists
Every single one there? I do not think you could possibly know that.
dumb and dangerous this refusal to see what should be obvious to everyone is.
Ironically what I said in my mod application is:
"I fully accept that people can and do hold opposing opinions to me, yet might be smarter, more informed, or more moral than me. I may still disagree with them but being wrong isn't evil."
Do you think I(or anyone) could disagree with you on anything without you automatically assuming they are less informed, stupider, or evil?
Every single one there? I do not think you could possibly know that.
The counterprotesters weren't. If you're marching and nazis show up to march with you and you don't drive them off or leave yourself, you're ok marching with nazis. The term for someone who is ok marching with nazis is "a nazi."
So the German Communist Party were Nazis?
After the Nazi electoral breakthrough in the 1930 Reichstag election, the SPD proposed a renewed united front with the KPD against fascism but this was rejected.[25]
In the early 1930s, the KPD cooperated with the Nazis in attacking the social democrats, and both sought to destroy the liberal democracy of the Weimar Republic.[26] They also followed an increasingly nationalist course, trying to appeal to nationalist-leaning workers.[4][27]
In 1931, the party reported a membership of 200,000.[28]
The KPD leadership initially first criticised but then supported the 1931 Prussian Landtag referendum, an unsuccessful attempt launched by the far-right Stahlhelm to bring down the social democrat state government of Prussia by means of a plebiscite; the KPD referred to the SA as "working people's comrades" during this campaign.[29]
In this period, while also opposed to the Nazis, the KPD regarded the Nazi Party as a less sophisticated and thus less dangerous fascist party than the SPD, and KPD leader Ernst Thälmann declared that "some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest [of social democrats]".[30] In February 1932, Thälmann argued that “Hitler must come to power first, then the requirements for a revolutionary crisis [will] arrive more quickly”. In November 1932, the KPD and the Nazis worked together in the Berlin transport workers’ strike.
Wow. Neat pro-nazi talking points. Do you think this is a good look for the moderation team?
I'd say the German Communist Party didn't know any better and learned the hard way what happens when you welcome nazis. It's interesting how none of your examples are from after 1932. I wonder what could have happened in 1933 that caused the sudden cutoff.
Neat pro-nazi talking points.
How is that pro-nazi? My personal ideology is essentially in opposition to Nazi ideology in every possible matter.
I'd say the German Communist Party didn't know any better
Not what I asked. You said marching with Nazis automatically makes you a Nazi, regardless of if they kill you later or not. So were they Nazis or not.
It's interesting how none of your examples are from after 1932.
Interesting how you didn't answer, were they Nazis?
My personal ideology is essentially in opposition to Nazi ideology in every possible matter.
Essentially? Wow, you can't even pretend to oppose nazis without wormy equivocation.
Not what I asked. You said marching with Nazis automatically makes you a Nazi, regardless of if they kill you later or not. So were they Nazis or not.
In this day and age it is. Certainly in the context of the unite the right nazi rally it is, which is what we were talking about. I can't fault fools who didn't know any better. Everyone knows they're the baddies now. Everyone at that rally knew exactly what they were about.
Interesting how you didn’t answer, were they Nazis?
The nazis didn't seem to think so, since they built Dachau to kill them. But yeah, have your stupid little gotcha. You're so clever.
headpats.
Essentially? Wow, you can't even pretend to oppose nazis without wormy equivocation.
Yeah because I think even Nazis would agree with me that random murder should be a crime or at least some people should have access to clean drinking water. I assume you agree with that too.
I can't fault fools who didn't know any better. Everyone knows they're the baddies now. Everyone at that rally knew exactly what they were about.
I think you overestimate how many people are obsessed with internet politics.
The nazis didn't seem to think so, since they built Dachau to kill them.
I didn't ask if they thought so I asked if you did.
Also, stop being patronizing, it's not funny it's just rude.
I think you overestimate how many people are obsessed with internet politics.
The nazis at the rally were chanting nazi slogans and carrying torches. They were not immediately removed from the rally. They were not removed at all. It was obvious to even the most casual observer that it was a nazi rally. Anyone marching in a nazi rally is a nazi. Even when Trump calls them "very fine people" and unconvincingly walks it back.
Now go ahead and pretend that fools who didn't know any better in the 30s are equivalent to people in 2017 who should have known better but marched with nazis anyway. You seem to be under the impression that it's a good look.
The nazis at the rally were chanting nazi slogans and carrying torches.
Most people don't know Nazi slogans or associate torches with Nazis.
It was obvious to even the most casual observer that it was a nazi rally.
How can you know if those who don't recognize it you call them Nazis and dismiss what they perceived?
You seem to be under the impression that it's a good look.
I didn't say it was a good look? It's not like I was there.
Most people don’t know Nazi slogans or associate torches with Nazis.
How can you know if those who don’t recognize it you call them Nazis and dismiss what they perceived?
The chanting of "Jews will not replace us" doesn't exactly leave room for doubt. Neither did the nazi flags.
Keep making excuses for nazis. It's obvious what sort of bar this is.
So business as usual lmao
No, it's worse...
The top mode just pm'ed me saying he only accepted people who said they wouldn't remove disinformation.
Because that would mean more conservative comments got removed, and apparently that's biased and not what this sub is for.
Also, one thing that's great about lemmy is the public modlog- I think its valuable for a community to be able see mod abuse and call it out.
Is there something glitchy going on or is this community's modlog supposed to just say "mod" did everything?
Oh oops, I had assumed it showed individual mod names to non-mods as it does to mods. It's interesting because the public api actually does say the mod names So, its either a bug in the web API or in the backend.
Fair enough, there's still a lot of weird little details to get ironed out, and we do at least have a modlog (which is a big advantage over reddit)
Thanks for the reply and that link
Yeah, I will look at it and see if I can fix it myself. And definitely the modlog is a big advantage.
One of them is running around this sub right now arguing for the dismantling of public education because they didn’t enjoy highschool
There's a bit more to it than that, but yeah. The part you missed though is that I never advocated dismantling it- I advocated it being voluntary.
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