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[-] andybytes@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

the Switch 2 is a waste of money.

[-] Susurrus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

This was inevitable. Everybody who was ever going to buy a Switch has already bought one. How else are they going to make more money? Keep increasing prices and keep cutting costs (enshittification essentially). These two will be the centre of all big business for the coming years.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

I implore people to watch the teardown guide itself, which is way more nuanced than the clickbaity The Verge article.

I'm not a fan of the use of glue in the joycon sides and the fact that the color strips under the controllers are hiding screws. The bigger complaint is the battery glue, especially because you can imagine aftermarket parts with bigger capacity could be a thing here. I definitely wouldn't open this thing unless it has a problem.

Some components are still modular, which is nice. I can't imagine the sticks not having changed design is great, but it's entirely possible they're way more durable, which the teardown acknowledges. Keep in mind that, while all controllers can drift, most controllers don't fail that way. It's possible to build this type of stick without widespread issues. Time will tell, though.

[-] hitwright@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The switch 2 gives out complete apple vibes. It's repairability is pretty horrid after watching the teardown guide.

Controllers will fail sooner or later and will have to be replaced. Here it will end up replacing the whole stick just due to glueing small parts of the controller.

Battery will also fail sooner than later. The whole thing yells planned absolesence...

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.

[-] phar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Blow a whole city? That's dedication

[-] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I really appreciate iFixit and how they help bring the discussion of repairability to the forefront.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i was looking at them originally to fix my pixel 5a phone, than realize it wasnt worth the cost. not because ifixit, but because of the unreliability of the 5a at the time, i changed to a non-google phone this year.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Great video. That's a disappointing outcome though.

It was interesting to hear though that Nintendo hasn't made any replacement parts available for the original switch, despite the fact that New York State apparently requires this by law.

I wonder if they'll be forced to comply with that at some point. There are probably other jurisdictions that require this or that will require this soon. I'd love to see some pressure applied to companies that don't make replacement parts available.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

At this point I trust in the EU to force Nintendo to play the right-to-repair game.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the EU has shown they're serious when it comes to consumer protections. It's great to see!

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

For example, coming into effect in 12 days, on the 20th of June, for smartphones and tablets:

  • Durability: Devices should be resistant to accidental drops and protected against dust and water.

  • Battery longevity: Batteries must endure at least 800 full charge and discharge cycles while retaining at least 80% of their original capacity.

  • Repairability: Manufacturers must make critical spare parts available within 5 to 10 working days, and continue offering them for 7 years after the product is no longer sold in the EU.

  • Software support: Devices must receive operating system upgrades for at least 5 years from the end-of-sale date.

  • Repair access: Professional repairers must have non-discriminatory access to any required software or firmware.

They will also have to include a sticker on packaging that has standardised information on it concerning energy efficiency, battery life, repeated drop test results, battery endurance in charging cycles, repairability score, and water/dust protection rating:

Source

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

Does that go into effect for all devices on sale, or only for devices released after that date? Also, that software support section is great. That basically means all phones need atleast 6 years of support

[-] Susurrus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Only new devices released after June 20th.

[-] SaladKing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

All the more reason for me not to purchase it.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just yesterday I spent 3 hours playing MK8D on my PC. Cozy on my bed and a controller + a remote keyboard.
Felt like the real deal.

Edit: Why the downvotes? Is emulation so frowned upon here?

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I hope you're right. Nintendo has turned into a bunch of cocky assholes and they need to be taught a hard lesson. I hope the Switch 2 flops so hard, costing them so much that they don't have any spare money left to continue suing the Palworld devs. They need to be put in their place.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe if it was 349 or 399... but 499 is wild

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

That's not even the biggest issue for me. The $80 games that never get discounted will cost a lot more than that pretty quickly. Plus I know they push their subscription service too.

As a PC gamer, fuck that. I'll play cheap better games on my free operating system that I actually control on my hardware that I can repair and replace easily. Nintendo games interest me, but not nearly at the price they're asking for with what they're offering.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I mean yeah, I wouldn't expect otherwise. Nobody hates their fans more than Nintendo does.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

Ironic because apparently the fan is actually pretty easily replaceable.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Not a problem. I wasn't gonna buy one amyways.

[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I will, used in a few years. Assuming emulation isn't rapidly done again.

[-] aTun@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I thought Nintendo devices were built like tanks, nes, snes, all old consoles are still playable. How long did the new Nintendo devices like switch last? I think the screen and battery are the main limit of devices life.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Nintendo has been the Apple of the video game world since the N64.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

NES actually, a good number of PC games got made because folks didn't want to deal with Nintendo and Sega arguably got into the market cause Nintendo was too strict in their publishing policy. That last bit is ironic given the AI slop and hentai on their online store, nothing against the hentai I just think it's funny.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn't work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn't responsive. 🙄

[-] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Spoiler alert: it's not. Same joysticks as last time.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are you fucking kidding? They didn't switch to Hall effect?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Idiots will buy it no matter what, may as well use the cheap stuff.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Still has an LCD panel, and still has regular sticks. I guess saving 0.10$ per unit adds up

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

It's the same joystick design. As the video says that doesn't mean it will have the same issues as frequently, but it does mean it can have the same issues. The question will be at what rate.

Given the coverage I have very low hopes that we will get a good idea of that from the press. Instead I expect the first Switch 2 joycon to drift will be put on an auction sale for every clickbait article to parade in front of people with rotten tomatoes at the ready. Still, it will matter if it's one in two or one in a million.

[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.

[-] Noerknhar@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

It's not.

Hall effect sticks probably would have increased the price, and then people would complain about how greedy Nintendo is even more than they do now.

It's always the same story. Whatever they do, it's not good enough or too expensive or whatever. In the end, the thing will be sold out nonetheless.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's a known and proven shit solution. Have any of you ever actually used hall effect sensor joysticks? The centering is worse, the polling rate is far worse, they use a ton more power (already a limited resource in the individual joycons) and most of all they get absolutely screwed by electromagnetic interference... Interference like, say, magnets holding the joycons on.

Ifixit is kind of full of shit here- the joysticks are the "same" only in that it's using the same general design as every other non-hall effect sensor joystick that's ever been used and most of those didn't have problems with drift.

It's not the same part as the original joycons, so the issue could be fixed- from what the switch welcome tour was saying, it seems pretty likely in fact.

[-] emogu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You’re getting downvoted for telling a truth no one wants to hear. But magnetic interference is why Valve abandoned Hall effect for steam deck after a bunch of field tests. You can mod other handheld PCs like ROG Ally and people who do report the same thing. Hall effect is great for standalone controllers but totally incompatible with handhelds.

But implying that Nintendo cheaped out again regarding its most infamous complaint about the last console is a much better way to get clicks on your site. There’s a million other things worth raking Nintendo over the coals for, but skipping on hall effect ain’t it.

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