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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

How do you test a reading level? Like for me it was always you either can read and understand or you can’t. What differentiates reading levels from grade to grade?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Did you start reading Kant's Critique of Pure Reason the instant you learned to read?

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Another comment here gives an example of how a 6th grade reading comprehension test could be formulated. Essentially, it's about how complex sentences you can parse, and how large your "context window" is while reading.

Imagine a small child just learning to read. They struggle with every word, so if a sentence grows more complex than "The dog is brown.", they simply can't get to the end of the sentence while still remembering what the start was about. This also applies at a higher level: Keeping track of a complex "scene" which describes a setting while also describing dialogue between characters and inner dialogue in parallel requires more cognitive effort than the simpler "scenes" in children's books. A higher reading level means you spend less cognitive effort reading and understanding the words and sentences, so you have more cognitive capacity in reserve to actually understand the full picture.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Ah I see. That makes sense.

[-] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

Shit, is that why I can't understand fuck all in Finnegan's Wake?

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Who is that sexy mother fucker in the picture?

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[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Question what is considered 6th grade.

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If all natural-born citizens has to go through the naturalization process before getting the right to vote, trump would never have been elected.

Not just because they don't know the 100 (I think they changed it to 120 now?) questions, but also because they would not pass the:

"Have you ever been a member of any totalitarian party?
Have you ever been a member of a terrorist organization?
Have you ever advocated the overthrow of any government by force or violence?
Have you ever persecuted any person because of race, religion, national origin, or political opinion?" Questions

(Fun fact: They can revoke your citizenship after the fact if they catch you lying, or if you do any "terrorist" activity within 5 years of naturalization. Jan 6 riotor types would never pass this. As a naturalized citizen, I'm kinda dreading this since last November)

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

That's good news! ... it means they're improving! USA! USA! USA!

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

And they all get votes

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, no shit. gestures generally toward the DC area

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.

When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?

There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.

Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Science shouldn't be compared to religion. On one hand because the doctrine of non-overlapping magesteria which all religions should follow (it can be summed up as anything Science has a say in, religion shouldn't). But also like science shouldn't bother competing here. When science is treated as religion, it's often abused similarly. Its a method for understanding the world.

The fact that pv=nRT is provable and if I go and get rudimentary equipment to do this I can double check without any scientists present. Sure there are stories associated with science, but unlike in religion they aren't the stuff its made of. Science doesn't ask for praise or belief, it asks for skepticism, curiosity, and precision.

Edit: wait, does Muse's album "the second law" count as science rock? It slapped and was about thermodynamics to a certain degree

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean math rock is a genre, in fairness

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Time to program something nasty and tricky or tweaking in a tight part: put on the math metal and figure it out.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Where exactly are the Jews advocating for cutting educational resources? Jews in general perform far better on educational metrics than most other groups, and their whole religion is based on reading, study, and debate.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hot take but I think this article is hyperbole. Think about it. Half of adults are underachievers. That tracks with most metrics. Your average person is not smart. Intelligence follows a bell curve and it only makes sense that the bottom half is going to be terrible.

Edit: ok just realized this is the meme sub lol.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

It’s not hyperbole, this is an actual serious issue in America. The overwhelming majority of Americans do not have high enough reading skills to extrapolate and cross reference data from things like text books and journal articles. Something like 40% of American adults can’t read well enough to comprehend multi-step prompts (e.g. they struggle with stuff like bus schedules). About 15-20% of American adults can’t read at a basic level, very simple things like medicine bottles. Depending on the survey these numbers can vary a bit

Part of this statistic is because we have a high immigrant population that doesn’t speak English as their primary language but the main reason is that we’ve simply eroded education quality for decades. I work with teenagers who are in high school and can barely throw together a coherent email. Statistically, most adults don’t read for pleasure at all.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

Look under “literacy rates” section

[-] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for pointing this out, and also for doing it in a politer way than I was able to above.

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[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

What percentage are those guys in the photos?

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That is the smartest man in the world and the president

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