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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago

Iran has a right to defend itself from its terrorist neighbor.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Obviously I'm not saying I want Israli civilians killed. I don't want that any more than I want Iranians and Palestinians killed.

That said, I'm finding it really hard to feel any sympathy for them.

[-] celeste@kbin.earth 33 points 1 day ago

Israel has stated that if Iran doesn’t stop defending itself, Tehran will burn. Is that what they meant? Iran’s nuclear-armed allies need to offer a nuclear umbrella to ensure this stays a fair fight. If they do, Israel’s reign of terror is over. If they don’t, this world is about to get fucking terrifying.

ah, shit

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

I think "defense" minister Israel Katz is the one who said Tehran will burn. Regardless, I can't see this as anything other than Israel promising they'll commit a second genocide. Fully backed by the USA, of course.

[-] zombiewarrior@techhub.social 16 points 1 day ago

@yogthos i think the author really overestimates the chances of a decisive conflict and not a protracted and drawn out conflict with no clear winner that takes the next 20 years

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

I don't think either the US or Israel have the industrial capacity to run a protracted conflict for the next 20 years.

[-] zombiewarrior@techhub.social 20 points 1 day ago

@yogthos man i would love to see the US finally just say enough is enough and abandon bibi like we have so many allies before
the idea of pissing away billions more dollars on preserving the israeli fairytale is... repellent to me

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago

The US Empire needs far-right states to serve as footholds, it can't just rely on aircraft carriers to project hard power. Israel is a land-based aircraft carrier. Now, I agree with Yogthos, the Empire has weakened its industrial capacity and genuinely is a paper tiger, it can be flashy for a quick period but lacks the necessary industry to pivot to a wartime economy necessary for protracted war.

[-] zombiewarrior@techhub.social 9 points 1 day ago

@Cowbee also, if israel succeeds in widening the conflict to include the whole russia/iran/pakistan/etc then they could be facing alot of more advanced weaponry and skilled military
which, their attacks on gas infrastructure seem to suggest thats exactly whats happening

while macron and trump wring their hands and say 'gee i think they must stop soon'

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

France, the US, and the UK have all reportedly been found defending "Israel" from Iranian missiles and drones, they are already involved. It seems like this very well could escalate.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

If the US thinks it can profit off a 20 year war, it will steer things in that direction. The greed has no bounds.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

I'm also fine with the US regime collapsing as a result of a 20 year war.

[-] zombiewarrior@techhub.social 8 points 1 day ago

@Sir_Kevin gotta keep those 5 defense company stocks rising every year on year forever!

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

It's the only way to keep the bribes coming!

I wish they found out more though

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago
[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago
[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because Iran is getting baited into a war, one that they possibly can’t win, meanwhile attention is getting shifted away from Gaza. If this does turn into a full blown war it and Iran really does have the capability to stop oil production in the Middle East we are heading for a major economic crisis all around the world and possibly more escalation. Not to mention Isreal seems to be doing a lot more damage to Iran than Iran is doing to Isreal. Either way the situation is bad for every one.

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