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[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm between living locations and can't carry my desktop around.

So I grabbed an old laptop and put Linux mint on it. It's been near perfect. Extremely smooth experience.

It detected my printer and auto installed. I installed steam and played Terraria without issue. Small performance problem but I don't have a GPU. Even works good with my docking station.

My only complaint is the audio device doesn't switch automatically when I dock/undock.

I'd recommend making a USB and boot into it for a test drive.

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[-] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, exactly.

(Kinda unrelated side note: Nobody around me is getting that all these apps are STUPID and MAKES YOU THE PRODUCT. Just why are they critisizing without even trying them?)

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[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago

I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

It's because we've seen this post 1000 times

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[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Because the people that would or can switch would already switch after it's been posted for the 1000th time. It's not realistic because the vast majority of people simply don't care. People hate windows updates enough as it is, to most average people this is good news.

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not caring is why these corporations have the power they do.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's because LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX

[-] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago
[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn't clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 3 points 3 weeks ago

The first paragraphs on https://endof10.org/ tell you why you should install Linux followed by telling you how to get in touch with someone who can explain things to you and even install it for you. Most of them do it free of charge. I'm not sure how you can improve on that.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

The end of windows 10 support is approaching. Windows 10 will go on for a while yet.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

Can't wait for the "The end of Windows 11 is approaching..." article in a few years. Keep me posted.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Installed Linux Mint a few months ago and have been dual booting. Hardly use Windows at all now.

Linux is exactly what an OS should be.

I've been a full time dev since 2012 and needed a Mac, I had barely used windows over that time but beforehand ran a PC service business.

Anyway, Ive been using Linux as a daily driver for the past 6 months for reasons.

... The other day I got a new cheap laptop I needed to setup for run a single application.

Holy fuck what a shitshow.

It took me 2 hours just to get to the desktop. Shit didn't work, bullshit login screens, ads everywhere.

It was a massive pile of dog shit.

After battling to get the system setup for the rest of the day I gave up, chucked Fedora Kinoite On it... Took 30 minutes from creating boot media to getting a desktop going, chucked the app I needed to run in a Flatpack, chucked it on a USB, and it was up and running.

No bullshit.

Just works.

Truly the year of the Linux desktop.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm guessing the cheap laptop was running Windows? You didn't mention, it sounds at first like you're saying you were using Linux on it.

What ads were everywhere? Why did it "take 2 hours to get to the desktop" - you mean, that's how long it took to install or something?

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[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 7 points 3 weeks ago

I just rage-downgraded back to 10 a couple days ago. is there any reason why I shouldn't just keep using it after this year? are we ever going to see a risk for zero day exploits for it like happened for XP after it depreciated?

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago

Just look up windows related cves. There's like 10 new exploits almost every month or so. Sure, not all of them will be super critical, but as time goes on they will stack up. I would not want to risk it, but you do you.

[-] m0stlyharmless@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

Consider running the LTSC version. It gets extended support.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've been migrating some of my clients (I do on site support for SMBs) to LTSC 2019, which gets updates until 2029. An added benefit is that it gets a lot less updates, essentially security updates, and comes with a lot less crap preinstalled.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

is there any reason why I shouldn’t just keep using it after this year?

You mean aside from all the reasons not to use Windows that applied even before deprecation? 'Cause there are a fuck-ton of those.

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 7 points 3 weeks ago

Unironically, yes. I was already aware of those and take them into account

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

I've had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it's "end of life" don't mean shit to me. It'll keep chugging along for years more.

That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!

[-] prof@infosec.pub 22 points 3 weeks ago

EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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[-] HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Mint was my first Linux OS, and it's been really nice.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not my first, but the one I landed on after years. It's just so good.

[-] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

Also 0patch, which will continue to provide security patches for Windows 10 indefinitely.

[-] vrojak@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

GF recently wanted to buy Ms office because she had a nice looking CV template for it that would not work well in LibreOffice. So I spent some hours making a good one without Ms crap, just so they would not get anymore money.

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[-] atlien51@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Somehow, windows 11 is even MORE spyware than 10!

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Now with AI! So Windows can use your processing power to record and analyze every use of your computer, and report back useful findings to MS. What data is sent back? Who knows? You certainly won't be told what 'core telemetry' is required at any point in time.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's not all quite as rosy.

Yes, Linux is much more capable now than it was 10 years ago and it's much more capable of being used as a main system. I myself have been using Linux as my main system for a few years now.

But it's also a fact that a lot of stuff might not work (even if it works for someone else) and that some things are still more difficult than they should be.

For example, on my laptop cannot wake from sleep since kernel 6.11. I have manually sourced a 6.10 from an older version of my distro and keep holding it back, so that I can use my laptop as a laptop. For someone without technical skill, this would mean that their laptop just can't sleep any more. Hibernate also doesn't work.

Another example is that LibreOffice still makes a lot of formatting mistakes when it has to open word documents. And sure, everyone could just switch to odf, but it's not quite as easy to make everyone else switch to odf. It makes it really hard to use LibreOffice in any kind of professional environment. Wouldn't want to make a powerpoint presentation that then looks like shit when it's played on a different PC.

Lastly, Nvidia sucks, but it's also close to the only option for laptops with dGPUs. When I look for laptops with dGPUs available in my area on a price comparison platform, I find 760 laptops with Nvidia GPUs and only 3 with AMD, all of which are priced at least €500 more than comparable Nvidia devices. So if you want to go for a gaming laptop, Nvidia is pretty much the only option, and under Linux it really sucks. Steam games generally work ok for me, but trying to use Heroic Launcher to play anything from my gigantic library of free Epic/Amazon/GoG games, about 10% of the games I tried actually work. And even with those that work, my laptop sometimes just decides that a slide show with 3 FPS is good enough. That stays even after reboots and resets, and after a few days it returns to normal. Only to go back to slideshow mode a few days later.

If you just use your laptop to run a browser, I can recommend Linux 100%.

If you want to do anything else and don't have any technical skills and/or don't want to spend hours fixing things that should just work, I can't fully recommend it.

[-] BingoBongoBang@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am a developer and Linux is my native environment in production systems. I wanted to use Linux on my laptop but sleeping / waking up never worked well enough. It could not switch from integrated video card to a discrete one ending up always using the discrete one which drained the battery in 30 minutes. All in all, it was usable but the details didn't work so I gave up. That was years ago and eversince no customer really allows Linux...

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[-] slumberlust@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you find yourself not wanting to switch, there are third party options for patching. I'm going to try zero patch, but I have no experience with them to date.

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