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Horses go brr (lemmy.world)
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[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

North America didn't originally have horses. When they were brought in, the Apache, more than any other indigenous group, structured their entire way of life around them. At least, that's what I learned from Western movies.

[-] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Now, I've read that horses were native to the Asian continent and migrated elsewhere, eventually to the Americas. However, I was at the San Diego Natural History museum last night and they had a display that claims the opposite, that horses are native to then migrated out of the Americas.

*37 seconds of Wikipedia browsing did teach me that native horses went extinct in North America about 8,000 years ago, then were later reintroduced.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Camels are also native to north America, and similarly went extinct here after spreading to Asia then later got reintroduced

Interesting. I knew about the horses being non-native. But the Apache part not.

Is there something that made them more likely to benefit from being a horse-culture?

Living on Steppes and Plains?

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They lived mostly in the southern Great Plains, extending into the desert, so I imagine horses would be great for them

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Horses are native to the americas. They evolved there and spreaded to asia but went extinct in america around the end of the ice age.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

They evolved there and spreaded to asia but went extinct in america around the end of the ice age.

They were too tasty for their own good.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Would it be unfair to say the horses that were there are a different species than those imported by the Spanish?

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

I mean, if dogs get their own specie classification from their ancestor. Sure why not horses.

[-] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Only if you’d say Native American humans are another species.

[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

We have reached the limits of what I know on the subject. So, no idea. If forced to make an uneducated guess, I'd say it was probably some combination of environmental factors, a preexisting culture that fit particularly well with horses, and natural variation in adoption of new tech among different groups of people.

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