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[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 4 points 6 days ago

@cm0002 Wayland doesn't Network, glad to see work is going forward with X.

[-] SilliusMaximus@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Yaay glad to see that someone is continuing developing X11 :D

[-] refalo@programming.dev 83 points 1 week ago

About four years ago, Linus Torvalds rebuked him for spreading anti-vaxxer misinformation on the Linux Kernel Mailing List

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago

is this the loser conspiracy theorist one?

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago

Can we not keep giving a platform to this piece of human excrement?

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Are we talking about the author of the article or the initiator of the Xlibre project?

[-] impolite7537@piefed.zip 11 points 1 week ago

The initiator of the Xlibre project.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Gotcha, thanks!

[-] zorblitz@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago
[-] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

He's a complete fucking nutjob who argued with Linus about vaccines on the kernel mailing list and has an array of awful opinions, just look at the first few lines of Xlibre's README.

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 36 points 1 week ago

I am entirely unsurprised that people who hate systemd also hate wayland.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

I swear some people want Linux to be exactly how it was in 2003, forever.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They actually do. To quote a major FOSS developer, "popularity is not a project goal."

Reminds me of early punk rockers that get upset when their tiny little nobody band that fits in their back pocket, gets too big to fit in their pocket anymore. Some might call it "selling out."

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

At this point they should just switch to BSD. Although Wayland is getting traction there as well...

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

And on the upside for them, no Gnome, since the devs are making systemd a hard dependency.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

Hey, there is an entire wayland bad x11 good article hidden in the last 4/5ths of the article!

Anyway, the article seems to argue that "toxic elements within Xorg projects, moles from BigTech, are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg".
It seems to me that now that wayland has become the clear focus of development, most devs sinply want X11 to remain as a legacy element, not causing unnecessary issues elsewhere, just remaining on lts.
The train has sailed, wayland is the norm and everyone is working on implementing the last leftovers the article is parading in its weird latter half, rather than through much greater efforts achieving worse results in patching up X11.
They should have forked X 10 years ago, when people were still interested in improving it.

It being left behind is a logical and fully adequate explanation, arguing eee makes little sense when wayland is clearly a simpler protocol. If you wanted to harm linux or foss, and your plan was the transition to wayland and freezing of X11 development, I would call you stupid.

I don't see why this fork, and this article, have to get conspiritorial about something this easily explained.

Now that we have the conspiracy crap addressed: wayland defense time

The Reg FOSS desk is nearing 60, [...] He doesn't care about [...] high and variable refresh rates, tear-free video,

My fancy new monitor I got in '22 doesn't work on X11. I'd have to replace my other monitors with matching new ones for a few grand, or keep watching videos and all else at 15fps, getting a headache. If you wanna keep your crt, why not keep an ancient X11, why this fork?
X11 doesn't support normal modern hardware, my monitor wasn't even special, it's just higher fps than my other monitors and 4k.

Wayland does not currently allow controlling window position. This means that when you open KiCad, it cannot remember where you last placed your windows.

The window pos remembering api (name made up by me, I forgot the real one) has been finalized, and will be in this or the next KDE version, etc.. The wayland people are fixing the criticism faster than the critics can shorten their list of remaining issues.

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uhhhh... ok that's all the wayland criticism, 'cause surprise, the last 2/5ths of the article are actually a rant about ... gnome? I think?
Something about no more shortcut support or how removing title bars is bad and the gnome disk manager has bad ui.
Idk my shortcuts are better than ever and my title bars were still there last time I checked.
But maybe this "big no-accessibility" is why absolutely no tiling dwms have ever been seen for wayland ever. If you switch to wayland you will have to tile by mouse exclusively, you heard it here first!

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 week ago

absolutely no tiling dwms have ever been seen for wayland ever

hyprland? dwl?

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

None ever, yes.
Not sure what you mean to ask there, but I gotta say hyprland would make a sick name for a tiling dwm.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 6 days ago

Hyprland and dwl are actual, existing tiling dwms for Wayland.

i wonder what you thought "dwl" stood for lol

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

could you hold this "s" for a while? I need the / it was leaning on for some webdev.

According to AcronymFinder, the leading search result for "acronym finder", dwl means "dying with laughter". In combination with a questionmark it would form an exclamation of disbelief.

[-] sanderium@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Accurate thumbnail picture

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

The greatest Linux weakness shows itself again.

[-] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The author doesn't appear to know the differenc between Wayland and the compositor. Or between X and the window manager. Neither Wayland nor X tile windows (which are called frames btw)

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

one in which Weigelt announced the project's Telegram group [...] [which] has nearly 500 members and many thousands of threads.

Mindboggling they think it's acceptable to use a platform that limits access to those threads like they own them.

Any modern open-source project has to develop on Discord and Google Docs™, that is well known. What were they thinking‽

this post was submitted on 21 Jun 2025
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