What a cringe title. I love bazzite - I run my PC I just built exclusively on it! - but microsoft doesn't give 2 shits about it. I highly doubt they give Bazzite any thought.
SteamOS scares the shit out of them, though, given that they're creating a "competitor".
Yeah and they unleashed some not and trolls to critic Linux gale experience, saying that Xbox give more performance and play more games. Comparing Xbox to steamdeck but melt down and go for personnal insult pr deforming ypur words when you tell them to compare a Xbox with a linux PC with same specs than xbox
Hmm, interesting. Is there perhaps one weird trick to using it?
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I think it's a great OS and it's absolutely amazing how far Linux Gaming has come even in the last few years. Personally, I have to say I'm not a huge fan of Bazzite's immutability-based design. I know there are pros and cons, and they just don't balance for me. I'm a tinkerer, I like to play with the OS internals and have full control of them. Sometimes that causes problems, but it also causes learning, and I like to learn how the OS works and what it's doing "under the hood" and in my mind Linux is great for that and that's part of the appeal. For a lot of people, an immutable OS is probably the right way to go, it's much safer, and stabler, and I know most people don't care. But I do think it's worth considering that Linux is not one-size-fits-all and while Bazzite might be best for some people it's not best for everyone.
As soon as you start getting into more customization, if you find annoyances you want to fix, sometimes it's much easier when you're on a traditional, non-immutable distro, and I consider it an important bonus that this will help you learn. You do have to be more careful, and more respectful about running shell commands freely that might destroy your system, but I think that's good experience to have.
Personally I run PikaOS (debian-based) with KDE Plasma 6 and it's been an absolute pleasure. I have found some of the above mentioned annoyances, but I've fixed them to my satisfaction and I'm extremely happy with the result. I have yet to find any game that is difficult to get running, I have yet to find anything that is difficult at all really. It's been straightforward and rock solid stable. I give a lot of credit to not just the distros but also to projects like KDE, Wine, Proton, Lutris, etc. which are building this incredible gaming ecosystem on Linux. It couldn't be a better time to dump Windows, and soon we'll be at the point where no one will mourn it.
That's totally legit. I prefer having my primary machine immutable so I can't break things. I have a mini PC that's my tinker platform. I have kubuntu on there now but may have to give PikaOS a try.
For what it's worth, Nobara's another good option and being Fedora-based might be more familiar if you're coming from Bazzite. I think the developers of PikaOS and Nobara are the same, or at least I think the projects share some history and some effort. Either way both are great distros depending on which flavor of package management you prefer. I'm definitely "an apt person" so Pika birb OS is the one for me, also it's got a pretty cute art theme.
I've been pondering Nobara for a while, tbh. GE Proton is already my goto and most trusted runner, and GloriousEggroll is the mind behind Nobara (though I'm unsure if they're the sole dev or not).
From what I've seen, it just sets you up for gaming right out of the box with minimal effort. The post-install welcome menu looks clean. It has everything you need to set up and install in one menu.
Personally I think the immutability is amazing precisely because it lets me tinker. Being able to layer packages and roll back if it’s not happy finally lets me try out different development setups
The way I see it, an os is just a set of fixed versions. I might as well treat it like a git checked requirements.txt or package.lock.json
Nix is also nice for that but that’s just a straight up config file nothing else.
Bazzite at least comes with preloaded options and wizards to choose other things
Ok. I'm not trying it. I mess with everything.
In a similar theme, I don't like the latest TrueNAS because if you want to mess with the OS, you gotta force it. Annoying as hell. I built my own nas instead.
People who say Bazzite isn't for tinkerers just misunderstand it. It's extremely tinker friendly, just not in the ways people are used to.
I'd say it's actually a lot more tinker friendly because it's super easy to revert changes.
I prefer cachyos, also cachyos lets me use gparted and like a whole de gui for install off the usb, it was comfortable and easier than windows, bazzite was still a terminal. Felt less "scary" swapping over.
I don't remember using a text interface to install Bazzite
Mightve been one of the other de options for bazzite
this was a few months ago and it launched in a terminal with the options
I'm a new Bazzite (nvidia) user, but I use Linux in various flavors for self-hosting already so I'm not a complete newbie.
I'm personally ok with the immutability of the os on my desktop, I'd rather be more free to break things in my homelab environment than lose an OS install on my desktop because I flew too close to the sun.
I 100% understand the appeal though.
I wonder what is the otigin of that name?
Answered here: https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/FAQ/
Why is it called Bazzite?
Fedora Linux's Atomic Desktops originally followed a naming scheme based on minerals. Bazzite is a mineral that is known for being strong, lightweight, and is colored blue.
This UGLY son of a bitch is playing SUPER FUN games and basically, YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID
How? ...Just install this Linux distro >
I'm hijacking this thread to ask a question:
Bazzite latest MESA how?
I can see that the driver released on the 18th is available on Fedora Rawhide, but it may contain the fix I need that removes graphical artefacting in Unreal Engine 5 games like Oblivion Remastered, Avowed, and Dune Awakening (checking the MESA developer forums shows that they've identified the problem. Checking their git shows they've found a fix to the problem, hence why I'm expecting the fix to be in the version release of the 18th).
I moved from win10 to PikaOS, after misunderstanding why linux mint installed on a USB was unusably slow. It's fine, but some weird problems. I think Mint can get closed source Nvidia drivers easily enough. The open drivers are fine enough.
is Bazite better than Pika? is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
unfortunately yes. driver support for any redhat derived Linux is amazing compared to Debian or Arch.
I stopped using redhat anything after IBM fucked everything up, but it's still true today.
Debian could be amazing if it weren't for the devout "it's not free, it's not for me" evangelicals. I mean, I get it, but there is a cost they just don't concern themselves with and the distro suffers because of it.
Pika OS has easy access to open and closed nvidia drivers. Though I bailed on mint, I did notice the drivers were 1 click away.
While the base of debina/arch might be pure, the distros that build on them do so to get porno filthy. apt+flatpack seems to work ok as update/install system.
I absolutely love that you describe PikaOS as porno filthy. No judgement, no defense, no argument, I just think it's a hilarious description while perfectly making your point, and is pretty much the best thing I've read today. Thank you!
And just to stay on-topic, yeah I've found flatpak invaluable in working around some of debian's unfortunate packaging limitations. I try to use the debian packages first if possible, but if the version is too old, not available, or has crappy dependency conflicts, flatpak to the rescue!
I would argue that that particular insistence of theirs is precisely why they're still relevant today and seemingly immune to the enshittification and churn that plagues the rest of the ecosystem
I don't disagree, but at the same time it's a choice the community has taken that completely walls off a large population of potential users.
as someone else said though, there are other distros based on Debian that attempt to rectify that.
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