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[-] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 89 points 6 months ago

"NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE," posts the man who just led us into war.

[-] huppakee@feddit.nl 26 points 6 months ago

Ikr, it's like puncing someone in the face and then telling that person now is the moment to stop fighting lol

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I read a post that said he couldn’t go to war without a vote from congress, was that wrong?

Edit: I’m not a US citizen so I’m not sure

[-] 2piradians@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

The constitution gives Congress the exclusive power to formally declare war.

That said, Congress hasn't declared war since 1942, yet we've obviously taken part in many wars since then.

Sadly there just hasn't been enough Congressional support to retaliate against a president for jumping to military action without authorization. And it doesn't help that the average American doesn't know that the president is not allowed to just deploy troops at will (in most cases, Iran included).

[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 months ago

Legally speaking that's correct. There was nothing legal about this, though.

[-] DeathCubeK@lemmy.ml 32 points 6 months ago

Kamala did warn you Americans.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 33 points 6 months ago

Given how Germany, France, the UK etc have all lined up behind Israel, towing the line that Israel has a right to defend itself, and even going as far as saying that Israel is doing our dirty work for us, I have very serious doubts that Harris would not have followed Israel down the warpath.

[-] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

A Kamala administration would not have left the Iran nuclear agreement though.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

Trump killed off the JCPOA in 2018. Biden had four years after 2020 to do something about that and didn't. So I don't know what you're basing your assertion on, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Biden

i suspect he was holding out til his 2nd term, but did not account for the fact that he had to drop out likely due to his cancer symptoms last year.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Iran had zero interest immediately re-entering the agreement the previous president just broke. And rightfully so.

Clearly you just want to blame Biden and Democrats for this and pretend things would be just as bad with Harris

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Now, when a terrorist attack occurs, he's fully justified in declaring martial law.

It's as good as over, folks. Checkmate.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

he doesn't even need that. he already does whatever he wants legal or not

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago

That'll teach the Democrats for not embracing socialism.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

This lukewarm take in every comment section is so old and boring. Maybe try blaming the fascists for all the, you know, fascism.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Sounds like you don't like me reminding protest-non-voters what they voted for.

Got another 3.5 years of this. Longer if you count the time it takes to fix things.

[-] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s fair game to blame citizens of fascist countries for the politics they helped to bring forward. And the "democrats and republicans are the same"-crowd that is very vocal on Lemmy definitely helped to enable this.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago

I don't know maybe you'll end up with Trump again after this if people don't change the way they vote.

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[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

we're all suffering because of people who protest nonvoted right now. So fuck them. They're just as much to blame as the maga voters. They fucked everything up. Its fucked. Its all fucked. So yeah, were going to be pissed about it.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My point is, regardless of fault, all this backwards-looking, performative infighting on the left accomplishes nothing at this particular moment. We've, uh, got bigger fish to fry. So let's focus our animus (and resistance efforts) on the fucking fascists whose boots are on our necks, shall we?

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[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

*Bombs a peaceful country. “Now is the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱

[-] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Closeted men of war preaching about peace. Closeted gays fighting against gay rights. Judgemental/greedy/racist religious people putting themselves on a pedestal about how you should "take care of thy neighbor".

It's always the ones who preach the most, the same ones doing the exact opposite of what they preach. Always the ones bitching about the bad in the world actively hard at work making the world a shittier place.

Seriously, if Trump says the sky is blue I'll immediately look up just to check if it hasn't turned red/green/pink/whatever.

Be always wary of the ones telling you how to live, and watch out for their actions closely. There's no hate like the 'love' of these hypocrites.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Remove Trump now!

[-] CPMSP@midwest.social 11 points 6 months ago

You know, the first two were enough for the world.

I guess we've lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago

I guess we've lived long enough to see ourselves become the villain.

Always have been.

[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well at least Genocide Joe didn't become the president.

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[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Can someone help me out here. How do they know that these sites are being used for nuclear weapons production specifically?

Iran does have a nuclear power plant and they do enrich their own uranium. Not trying to justify these bombings, I'm just curious on how they determined these sites are specifically for weapon manufacturing.

Remember when Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

Same thing.

[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So total bullshit with zero evidence, cool. Just felt I was missing something as they kept calling them nuclear sites without specifying what they believed the sites were being used for.

Thanks for confirming

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Netanyahu has been insisting that Iran will have a nuclear weapon in months for a while now. Here's a Jon Stewart clip talking about it: https://youtube.com/shorts/jlqXOwYfpdQ

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago
[-] huppakee@feddit.nl 25 points 6 months ago

Officially we'll only be able to call that afterwards, during the cold war ww3 also almost begun. We should still try stop and prevent it, no matter how difficult it to argue it hasn't begun yet.

[-] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Not defending any of this but these WW3 comments are so weird. The US has been in so many wars in the Middle East, why would this specific one turn into a world war? Especially since there will not be boots on the ground (you never know with trump but I think that’s genuinely the last thing he wants to do).

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 6 months ago

Well, I’m mildly surprised.

The suddenness kind of reminds me of when he bombed Assad.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This fucking dickhead drumphkins. Could someone please....

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

without congressional approval

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Congress decided quite a while ago that presidents are allowed to have a little war, as a treat, and only seek approval for it later. It's been this way at least since the '90s and likely before.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nice, another one of those American values that we are all supposed to admire

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[-] bender223@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago

Netanyahu must have some really good kompromat on trump thru Epstein.

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