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I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner 😉

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:

Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.

Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads

Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.

Talk about talking out of your ass.

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

Talking out of your AIss*
Or just great satire, what's even the difference between that and reality these days?

[-] AGuyAcrossTheInternet@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

I find comfort in satire because it's way less absurd.

[-] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

Thoughts and sprayers to satire!

[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, it's obvious sarcasm. But reading comprehension has seriously gone to shit in the last decade or so.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Just in case that putting processes in quotation marks (but not agents) wasn't enough to convince you how deeply unserious this person is, they threw "azure-hosted kernel layers" in there.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, this is bullshit.

While some sort of a redesign of part of Linux's internals I could imagine.

In terms of kernel ABI stability Linux is often criticized even in comparison to BSDs.

And in general its insides are more messy and "naturally grown", or so I've heard (OpenBSD is the only OS whose internals I've made myself familiar with sufficiently ; also put some effort for FreeBSD).

So my, eh, alternative opinion would be that something is brewing for Linux like what Digital Unix was for BSD Unix. A hybrid cleaned up kernel, maybe support for different ABIs (like what exists in FreeBSD for Linux and older versions of itself, except maybe more ambitious). Maybe even tackling a more open alternative to NT (itself alternative to VMS and David Cutler being the man who did that) while they're at it. NT is not a bad thing. Even Windows is not a bad thing. Maybe Wine isn't enough, or maybe it would be cool to have something possible to make compatible with many Windows device drivers.

At least I hope it's Linux learning to do EEE and not the other way around.

Though with Bill Gates and Dave Cutler this really seems like a meeting of legends and nothing more. They're cool people, but I don't think they want to play global thermonuclear computing war at that age, unlike just global thermonuclear war IRL, this one is more attractive for younger people. Even if it's about some project being born, I'd expect that to be "just for fun" for everyone involved, they deserve that after all.

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Add long as it has nothing to do with Linux, I don't care

[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Someone's 3d printer making spaghetti in the background.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago
[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Tiny head though

[-] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

That is wild they've never met.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.

[-] fernandofig@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Same. At this point I think he probably did it more to indulge those who wanted that to happen than actually wanting or caring about it.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

I'd have expected then meeting by chance at a conference at some point

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Haha I read that as gayer.

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

The awful lighting on this photo makes Linus look older than Bill!

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Except for the guy on the left, who is clearly wearing a wig.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Not just a wig, a cheapo Aliexpress wig. I had an employee who bought a quality hairpiece, and it was uncanny. He paid through the nose for it, but it was worth it for him, as he was quite bald in his 20's.

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I didn't even recognize them until I read the title.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I like to imagine they were just side-eyeing each other the whole time.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And every movement arises suspicion. One of them jumped when the other reached for his phone in his pocket

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Linus looking healthier than ever, dog. Good for him. Live your best life, baby.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Lean, mean, diving machine.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, that's one of his interests, isn't it? He wrote some kind of software for that, if I remember correctly.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Holy shit the comments on that have got to be the sloppiest slop I have ever seen.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Dave Cutler, the legend of VMS and the NT kernel.

[-] nope@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago

This happened on 21 June 2025

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

...that's two days ago?

this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2025
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