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Seems like a Trojan horse to get users to grant access to their encrypted chats?

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Meta can fuck off. The moment this shit appears I'm going 100% Signal.

[-] 0x01@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago
[-] illi@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Everyone has whatsapp and not signal is pretty much the gist of it

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I'm already on Signal but nobody else is.

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago

My family uses it, work uses it, Microsoft 2FA uses it. It's a hassle to try to change what other people use.

[-] noodly_appendage@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 month ago

A few years ago, I switched from WhatsApp to Signal. I told all my important contacts and groups that I'd delete WhatsApp at the end of the month and that they can either reach me on signal or using SMS from there on. This was enough time to answer peoples questions and convince many people to install Signal too. My family now uses it, most of my friends do, and while all of them kept WhatsApp back then, they now use Signal to message each other. So it is possible to make the switch and take lots of people with you.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Can't you switch MS 2FA to use text or their authenticator?

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's no phone signal where I work and I'd rather not use their app if possible.

[-] jimi_henrik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I blocked Microsoft in WhatsApp and they reverted back to sending SMS messages. However, this won't help if you (like me) I refuse to install Microsoft apps on your phone.

[-] Maestro@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Why wait? Why not switch now?

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

In other words, meta is harvesting your WhatsApp data, and gives you a (potentially inaccurate) summary in exchange for feeding their LLMs.

[-] darkkite@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

They've always harvested your data but they haven't done the actual contents of the message

[-] xxd@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

I'm interested in how they've allegedly achieved this working without anyone but you having access to the unencrypted messages.

Don't get me wrong, I want none of this shit in a messaging app, but I'm at least interested in how that is supposed to work.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

From what I gather the texts are encrypted and sent to their LLMs that process it with some mechanism to verify the code being run in the cloud to process the texts is one that the WhatsApp app agreed to.

But they could just as well start siphoning the data after changing that code. Everyone will be able to see the cloud code changed if/when tbat happens but I don't think there's a way to differentiate that from a regular update.

Don't think theyve opensourced any of this

[-] chaospatterns@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Fascinating. Just based on your comment and nothing else, sounds like it could be something like a CPU Enclave like Intel SGX. Basically a remote client can validate that an application runs in a secure part of a remote cloud computer. The stated goal of SGX is that you only have to trust Intel and if you trust Intel and say run program X in the enclave, then only that part of the CPU can access the data, not the applications running in the non-secure enclave.

Now that brushes over some things like you still need to trust the client and IIRC in a WhatsApp situation, you don't really know what enclave does, but the communications between the enclave and the host OS are heavily restricted. LLMs also require lots of CPU and are usually run on GPUs, so not sure how that works yet.

[-] teolan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

They use GPU based enclaves. They have a white paper available. I just seemed it but they mention AMD and NVIDIA enclaves.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They might publish components of it enough to verify that the processing code is not emitting any data but as others said - it could've been done locally on the phone

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

Bros got that 9:100 phone

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 month ago

LOL

Hey Meta AI, can you summarize that for me?

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

ShaggySnacks had a good laugh

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Would be a good feature if it works and is private.

I'm in multiple group chats and often open WhatsApp to see 800 unread messages in a single chat. I don't want to read through all of that, but I do want to know a high level overview, so I can see if it's something I actually want to scroll back to and have a proper read.

However, I've seen multiple AI summaries missing out important stuff, so that's almost certainly going to be an issue here too.

I also want it to be completely private. They say it is, but who knows? The fact it's not on-device is a bit of a red flag to me.

[-] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Did anyone ask for this, it's a messaging app

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

probably the owner of the pictured ~~sword~~ phone

[-] orionsbelt@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it’s surprising this feature is opt-in. either way, fuck meta.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

And with that, room for misinterpretation.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

This sounds like it might be useful for some people who get lots of messages, like businesses at least, but I just don’t trust Meta.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

Also, I wouldn't trust a hallucinating LLM with my business messages honestly.

[-] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

And just like that, end-to-end encryption vanishes again.

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