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[-] Panties@lemmy.ca 87 points 1 week ago

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[-] Laser@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

[-] warm@kbin.earth 24 points 1 week ago

After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

aw man, this is the first i'm hearing about discontinuation. apparently it's because people want larger phones?!

i have a 5 IV and it is by far the largest phone i've ever owned... i wish it was like an inch smaller. but it was the only model i could find that doesn't have a non-rectangular screen. these bloody camera cutouts are everywhere and i never even use the front camera.

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

You also have to remember to have that adapter with you

[-] Laser@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

An issue shared with the headphones themselves

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

I just leave the adapter plugged into the headphones. Then there's nothing extra to manage.

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[-] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

You can find adapters that can charge while still having a 3.5mm back

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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[-] ggwithgg@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

You have these usb-c to mini jack adapters. They are like 5 to 10eu. They are small enough to keep them attached to your jack headphone. It works perfectly for me.

I think it is better to view the usb-c plug as 'one protocol to rule them all'. If you do so, it makes quite some sense.

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[-] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

Honestly feels criminal with how bloated companies have made these phones yet they cheap out on a headphone jack.

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[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

The state of mobile phone market in Canada is so frustrating. Not only is our market dominated by 3 players who refuse to actually compete with each other, but we miss out on half the cool phones that the rest of the world gets too.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 22 points 1 week ago

FP would be a good choice for Graphene.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately Graphene have said they will only use pixels (or potentially their own phone in the future) because no other phones have the Titan M2 security chip.

It's a shame though, because I'd love to have Graphene on it.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I just want them to make a true flagship phone. I personally wouldn't mind paying extra for a more ethical phone, if it had all the bells and whistles and wasn't half obsolete straight out of the box.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

What features would that include that the phone doesn't already have? I'm currently an iPhone user, but I'm looking to move to a more open source alternative.

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[-] __dev@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A big problem they have is that they have to rely on Qualcomm for security updates, and the flagship chips simply don't get 8+ years of support. Fairphone uses Qualcomms IOT chips, which come with much longer support.

[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Snapdragon 7s Gen3 is a pretty decent chipset. Decent display too. 8GB RAM is a bit on the low side. Camera is all about how good processing is. It's not that crazy expensive if all works well and considering what their goal is.

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[-] anzo@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

My 3 greatest wishes are:

Replaceable battery

Replaceable usb charging port

120 watt cahrging

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 25 points 1 week ago

Why do you need 120 watts charging for a phone? Most laptops don't even support 100w.

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[-] Laser@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago

Replaceable battery

40€

Replaceable usb charging port

20€

120 watt cahrging

33W

[-] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

love fairphone but i cant go bacl from graphene os. its so nice not having google attacjed to everything.

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[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

I think it's important to remember that the price is higher because they pay their factory workers a living wage and use a combination of recycled and fair materials.

It looks expensive because other phones are cheap, and other phones are cheap because they are exploiting people to make them.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Can anyone recommend this? Is the camera any good?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Basically nobody has this in hand yet. Its lighter (193g) and shorter (156mm) than the previous ones which is nice. Harder glass surface (Corning 7i) so less scratches. Its still thick tho at 9.6mm but i dont mind that. If gsmarena is correct, then they didnt include video output over USBC for some fucking dumb reason this time. Ridiculous.

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[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Good question. I was just reading the article about it on The Verge, which mentions:

On the back, you’ll find a 50MP main camera and a 13MP ultrawide camera, while the front has a 32MP hole-punch camera for selfies and video calls. That’s a significant step down from the Fairphone 5, which used 50MP sensors on all three of its cameras.

No mention of camera quality, though, as it's basically a press release post and not a hands-on or review. I wish this would be available in the US for a fair price.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

4000x3000 (12MP) is completely fine for a secondary camera imo. 32MP for the front cam is more than enough too. Upwards of 12MP, the denoising and optics are much more important than the resolution.

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[-] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You can get good Bluetooth earbuds for under $50 and a USB-C to AUX dongle for under $15.

The average person is fine with Bluetooth earbuds or an adapter, and audiophiles would not find the inbuilt DAC/amp on a phone to be adequate.

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[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[-] ayane@lemmy.vg 11 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

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[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

I'm sad that the battery swap requires a screwdriver, but it's really fine. As long as it's not glued in I don't care honestly.

The modular back is cool, specs look nice, lighter and smaller than my FP5 is a great thing, cuz this thing is heavy and the battery is mid.

It looks cool! Good direction I think. Of course I want a headphone jack, but I am learning to live without

[-] Jagget@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

main camera, AI-powered low-light magic

Can I turn it off? Can I? I just want my photos, the real ones, however bad they are. I don’t want them to be half generated.

[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Is there any chance this is the same HDR technology that has been around for at least 10 years, but using latest marketing buzzwords?

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