When was this from, and what did he mean by that exactly? The context matters.
He's been way harder on Israel than Trudeau ever was.
“A Zionist (if you will) Palestinian State that recognizes the right of Israel to exist. Not just to exist but to prosper and not live in fear.”
So he just means a state that doesn't want to wipe Israel off the map. He may not be aware that "Zionist" is a trigger word in far left information bubbles.
That's where the "when" comes up as well. 10 years ago the narrative about Zionism in the West was different.
The clip is linked. He's talking about wanting a Palestinian state that's pro Israel and pro Israeli flourishing.
I guess he means a state that's ok with illegal settlements and apartheid treatment.
Maybe he means one that'll back up Israel's imperialist and aggressive wars in the region.
I guess he means a state that’s ok with illegal settlements and apartheid treatment.
Why would he mean that?
I think it's more likely that he's idealizing a future where Israel and Palestine forget their history and trauma and suddenly become best buddies who root for each other's success because no one is interested in inflicting any more pain on the other. This is a pointless exercise in imagination but it's probably what he's going for with this statement.
Very charitable but valid interpretation.
Extremely poor choice of a loaded word if so.
Either way, reason to be disappointed with him.
Extremely poor choice of a loaded word if so.
Totally agree. And tone deaf too. I imagine how ridiculous would it be to call for an "American exceptionalist" Canada.
Very braindead to hope for a future empathetic view of the agressor if the aggression hasn't even stopped yet.
Good comparison.
I believe in an independent Canadian state but it must be a MAGA state!
That's where "when from" becomes significant as well. The political calculus around Zionism was pretty different 10 years ago - being anti-Zionist was basically a fringe ideology in the West, and in the mainstream was conflated with being anti-Jewish.
Saying "Zionism" but interpreting it as a two-state solution was kind of a moderate-left take on things.
That's valid, for the record these are recent comments.
Seems to me like it's a good way of trying to make the idea of a free palestine appeal to zionists.
(This is my best attempt at apologism.)
Hey zionists. You can chortle my balls.
We need to stand against genocidal wankers!
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