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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago

The Democratic Party are not friends to the people. They get rich being the opposition party and will only do the bare minimum necessary to get you to not vote the monsters back in, which is one of the reasons far-right parties are getting a draw world-wide when the alternative is neoliberalism.

We have to force radical change (the no brainer stuff like social safety nets, massive justice reform, and massive election reform).

The Sword of Damocles is twofold: the revolution of the people, and the wrath of rival dictators. And it's not to be blunted, but to keep our officials serving the public rather than their own private interests.

🧵⚔

[-] lb_o@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It is so pleasant to see that people in the US understand that.

This is the extreme example, but if you look at Russia, that separation between the public and the politics had happened a long time ago. Now it is impossible to even convince people that politics has to serve their interests, and not the rich. And we see with the invasion how these lofeviews eventually unfolds.

Wish Americans to be strong in their transformation into the real civil society. And wish you luck and to have required support for this transformation.

[-] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Don't forget Bernie.

DNC had the same exact response. With the same exact Trump.

Took the DNC ten fucking years to pull their head out of their ass long enough to complain about young men populism being the key to victory, despite literally pissing away all the young men populism voters they had with Bernie Sanders.

Thank fuck it's now blatantly obvious with Zohran.

[-] derry@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

I'm not confident they will get it this time. Or care

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I mean really they don't, I'm pretty sure 180 just voted against the impeachment of Trump. Literally just waiting to see which shill geriatric they'll put up for 2028 and pull the same "vote for us or suffer Republicans" bs for the next election.

I keep saying that if progressives in the DNC are being constantly blocked and cheated out of power, they need to split off and make their own party. They're afraid that if they do, they'll lose a majority against Republicans, but that's already true because even bargain basement protection laws barely pass when the Dems do have a majority in congress, and they actively support bs Republican bills when a minority like right now.

Splitting would render the DNC useless and simultaneously tap into the huge block of nonvoters that would turnout like how Mamdani's voter base was largely a grassroots campaign.

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[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

we shall destroy the democratic party and rebuild it in our image

[-] Draegur@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

If they're not with Zohran, they're against Democracy.

I mean this is kind of obvious at this point that the democrats and the republicans are both anti-democracy, just one covertly and the other overtly. But still. I want more people getting loud and angry at anti-democracy democrats.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean at this rate with about %70 of democrats saying no to Bernie's stop arm sales motions, we can already safely assume yes they are. They have only been caring about their seats for quite a while and the deals they have made to stay on those seats do not align with the aims and interests of people like Bernie and Zohran. That is why they try to stop such candidates as ferociously as Republicans.

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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

So funny to see in real time the difference between their phony outrage over Trump’s arguably monstrous policies, VS their genuine fear over a socialist winning a mayoral race.

This is why everyone who claims the way to fix Dems is via primaries is wrong. Dems will lie, cheat, or simply not hold primaries altogether, rather than risk an actual leftist winning the nomination.

[-] sturger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Now watch as Dems throw their support behind the independent in order to undermine Zohran.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] mikezeman@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Your source indicates he is still running, but unless I'm missing something makes no mention of endorsements. Do you have a source for that?

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[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

I still think we should support those that do primary if just to show the flippant double standards.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Theres like 2 people in the DNC who have voiced dislike of Zohran, and they're getting fucking roasted on social media for it.

Zohran Mamdani is a Democrat. He is the DNC candidate. Vote for the DNC, vote for Zohran Mamdani.

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

the Dems are in cahoots with the same elite that are in cahoots with the Reps. the dems and reps pretend to be on opposite ends of a spectrum, but they are both sucking up to capitalists and their corporations

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

By definition that makes them all rightwing authoritarians aka fascists, which checks out.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It's fun watching you kids realize that the Democratic party isn't the place to go for real change. I was there after Kucinich lost the primary in 2000 and then when Gore gave up fighting for his votes.

Also: You have to vote for them no matter how much you hate them. If Fetterman wins his primary next time I MUST vote for him or I am letting Republicans win.

As opposed to Chuck Schumer who also lets Republicans win.

[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

I was there after Kucinich lost the primary in 2000 and then when Gore gave up fighting for his votes.

Me too grandpa.🙂

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You kids and your Gores and Kuciniches. Pepperidge Farm remembers Mondale/Ferraro. Shit, we remember McGovern.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Trump barely beat Harris.

Cuomo got crushed in this primary.

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Donald Trump is useful to the real power.

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

getting pretty close to time to just start referring to the DNC as fascist adjacent. playing lame duck to this particular psychopath is way too old and fucking irresponsible a decade later.

especially when they pull this crap at the same time

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I hope you never thought these people were there for you. At least after the age of about 22, 23?

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[-] ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Nationalism ✔️ imperialism ✔️ mixed economy for the benefit of the bourgeoisie ✔️ labor suppression ✔️ caters to middle class&petty bourgeois ✔️

[-] freewheel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

For some of us, the 2016 Democratic primary was quite illuminating. I'm glad to see people are catching up finally.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I wonder what all the people who shamed 3rd party voters will say if establishment Democrats start throwing their support behind an independent Cuomo.

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[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

Its as if the oligarchs dont like it when a candidate that is not endorsed by them wins

[-] aaron@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It didn't happen overnight (and racist religious world views have been cultivated within this cohort over many years), but the fact that the poorest most easily manipulated people haven't had anybody representing their interests for decades now opened the door to Trump.

The same process is happening in the UK. The UK 'electorate' don't seem to have the wherewithal to see this.

[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

the poorest most easily manipulated people

The people who would benefit the most from Democrat-championed social programs that they now label as "radical" and "socialist" you mean?*

 

*Which is not some blanket endorsement of Democrats. A lot of them are also out of touch, too conservative, and still trying to run the country like it's 1952. I'm eagerly awaiting the rise of a viable 3rd party (but after all these decades I'm not really holding my breath) or the implosion of the Democrats. I was aghast that Trump somehow pulled them right instead of left, but maybe it will result in an implosion from which Bernie, AOC, Jasmine Crockett and such can bring a phoenix out of the ashes.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Only one is an actual threat to how the Democrats do things.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Did the DNC say something about Mamdani?

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Did hitler murder anybody?

An extreme example, sure, but if you control an apparatus, how much responsibility should you take for their actions?

I was just asking because I literally didn't know what this was referring to.

[-] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

It's funny how hot Gillibrand got over Zohran, but hasn't really said a peep in the last 5ish months of all... this.

It's certainly curious.

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