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Fucking dystopian. Tell me otherwise
All porn is illegal in China. There are hundreds of queer romantic novels and such not being targeted, because they don't cross the line into graphic pornography. This is being framed as anti queer but it is actually anti porn
The article makes the argument that it is overtly anti queer:
The law targets "explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions". Heterosexual depictions often have more leeway - works by acclaimed Chinese authors, including Nobel Laureate Mo Yan, have graphic sexual scenes, but are widely available.
Although authors of heterosexual erotica have been jailed in China, observers say the genre is subjected to far less censorship. Gay erotica, which is more subversive, seems to bother authorities more. Volunteers in a support group for the Haitang writers told the BBC police even questioned some readers.
Anti porn shit always comes for us. Always.
You have Chicken with a counterargument for why it's anti queer in particular. I'll take your anti porn frame instead just for the sake of it: still dystopian. Especially written. You can't even make the case actors are being abused.
Could you do me a favour and get a fucking grip please? You're describing having to use your imagination while wanking as dystopian.
Banning porn isn't just about porn
And the shared imaginary of literature does help people develope and elaborate on identities, including sexual identities. So even if it was just about porn, it would still be dystopian, even if it doesnt have quite the urgency or visceral edge of the dystopian shit most of us are used to pointing out these days.
You're describing having to use your imagination while wanking as dystopian.
How am I doing that? Using imagination while wanking is perfectly fine. Arresting people for using their imagination is dystopian.
Believe whatever you want I suppose
This should go in the list of comments that are always worthless in any context.
I’m sure the ML will totally ignore this.
This is one of my bigger complaints with China.
They are criticising china too, this is a stupid idea one way or another
They will justify this.
Maybe. More likely they will discard the validity of the story based on the source.
Well, the Stalinists will. Lenin was a big fan of lesbian erotica!
I love how they gave up arguing and just downvote.
Do not mess with the fujoshis
I mean I don't get why gay erotica is popular amongst women, but I'm not gonna make that somebody else's problem. The CCCP are just assholes.
Same reason cis hetero men are the majority of the lesbian porn consumer. It's not sonething people usually say out loud in broad daylight but there's nothing wrong expressing someone's fantasy in form of fiction if proper zoning and warnings there.
Sorry this is untrue because I am a woman and I consume 95% of the lesbian porn. I guess, as lesbian porn georg, I am an outlier and have not been counted
Ok I stand corrected, based on pornhub statistics lesbian porn 2024 is the most popular among women. I factored more men watch porn than women hence the majority in number, but it seemed viewership has been shifting toward more balanced state too.
The point I made is that cis men like women body and some prefer more of them than having a guy.
To be clear I was making a joke about myself as an individual accounting for 95% of all visits to lesbian porn, and tying it in with the "spiders Georg" joke
Nice one doing your research though!
Depends on the place and context. I don't know as much about the Chinese market for these things, but in a lot of cases for Japanese/Korean titles in this genre there's a number of fascinating elements that combine to make it appealing.
It's about beautiful men and can focus on them a lot, for one, but it also offers vectors to discuss and engage with dynamics and/or social things which women are discouraged from expressing. A lot of the time, one of the couple in Boy's Love (for example) is intended to be a bit of a proxy stand-in for the female reader. They're more often the viewpoint character, and they get to be more vocal about sexual desire for men than a woman may feel comfortable writing a female character expressing.
They also can engage with some kinds of stories about bigotry that can intersect with women's problems in sympathetic ways; and, if you're trying to deal with something that's really sensitive or traumatic as a woman, then having male characters go through something similar can give the appropriate level of emotional remove.
Also, pretty men kissing!
Like, I've been reading CLAMP stuff again and wow those are pretty men!
I'm not a woman, mind you, but I've been reading this stuff for, like, 15+ years and these are my (incomplete) conclusions.
Bread is a delivery mechanism for the contents of the sandwich. But what if you could remove the bread, and have double the sandwich contents instead?
So a salad with minced meat and ketchup? 🤔
So its like the folks that throw meat and cheese into their mouths and then squirt mustard straight in there.
It's messy, but if that's what you want, this method provides what you want at the highest density possible.
I've read gay erotica by women and it's pretty good.
So they want their gay porn from authentically gay sources???
No they want it from straight men.
kinky.
Shithole country
China so evil that banning child porn is seen as bad.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2025
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