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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 day ago

Knock knock, Nintendo.

Suprise!

Its the Consumer Protection and Defense agency of Brazil!

https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/nintendo-faces-legal-action-over-ability-to-brick-switch-2s-whenever-they-want-3221145/

Yeah, Brazil is evidently not cool with the 'we can completely brick your device remotely' schtick.

[-] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep. And unlike most toothless consumer protection agencies in the US, Procon does not fuck around. They'll even straight up force gaming companies to unban someone from a game if the person felt the ban was unfair, and force them to not only return their entire progress, but all of their items and pay them a sum for the damages. Add that to the fact suing in Brazil is completely different than in the US: everyone is assigned a lawyer for absolutely free during the entire process, and customers win cases against big companies all the time without ever having to spend a single cent.

[-] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 8 points 23 hours ago

I guess if the German "verbraucherschutz" hears this they might also pitch in once the German bureaucracy has run a few months for it

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 16 hours ago

Nintendoesn't

[-] noride@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago

I read about Nintendo's ability effectively brick them remotely yesterday and decided to cancel my order. I have had every Nintendo console since the NES, for better or worse, but I am definitely skipping this one.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Get a steam deck and pirate any of the games you want

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

I have a steam deck and figured out how to emulate BoTW.

I was initially disappointed by my inability to get it to run at better than roughly 20-25 fps even after some tweaks and bullshit.

... Then I realized that the Switch 1, in handheld mode... can't actually do much better, claims to run at 30fps, frequently has framerate drop spikes.

So yeah, a Deck does a pretty good job, as has always been the case with emulators: its a bit less efficient than the native hardware env on the most demanding titles, but a Switch 1 can barely fucking run BoTW properly as well.

My next attempt at this?

See if I can jerry rig FSR 2 in the emulator to run it at a lower res and then upscale.

[-] theOneTrueSpoon@feddit.uk 1 points 19 hours ago

What sites can you pirate switch games from? So I know to stay away from them

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

Idk, Nintendo games have zero appeal to me. Not sure what the best source is.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 7 points 1 day ago

The steam deck has been the direct replacement for the Nintendo switch for me.

[-] Omegamint@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I won't even consider buying one until they're fully hackable. Until then I'd rather invest in my steamdeck and PC.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I have the mindset that I buy one for the lowest firmware, because nintendo always has people trying to hack it (successfully). Nintendo has very low investment in actually trying to get a proper OS engineer design their OS security. Youd basically have to go as far back as the fucking virtual boy to look for something non exploitable, and thats just because no one bothered with it.

[-] Omegamint@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I've considered buying one to hack later, the only issue is generally being locked in to low firmwares and thus only the games on those firmwares, unless they figure out some sort of hack later on.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the switch 2 ends up requiring a hard mod down the road but I've decided I'm not going to worry about any of it until it materializes.

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

I know 'canceled' is the American spelling but it looks weird to me without the second L.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Oh my god, it does have two L's. I've been losing my mind this entire time for like the past... Well since getting auto correct.

I thought I was just bad at spelling.

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

Both "canceled" and "cancelled" are correct spellings, but they are used in different regions. "Canceled" is the preferred spelling in American English, while "cancelled" is preferred in British English.

For whatever reason, even though I'm American, canceled just looks wrong to me.

[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Just wait til it's hacked bro. No way they are keeping this thing secure.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Everything about Switch 2 has made me hate every choice Nintendo has made.

Guess I'll sit out this generation, and focus on backlogs. Then in 10 years, I can always just pirate the Switch 2 catalog.

[-] Maestro@fedia.io 34 points 1 day ago

I wonder if the EU can throw the book at them. Technically the port on the switch is not USB-C but a proprietary port with the same physical connector. But EU mandates USB-C especially so people can use chargers and things they already have. So I wonder if Switch 2 violates EU regulations.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

it mandates it for charging, but i dont think the mandate technically applies for other functionality.

i wouldnt be surprised if as a device it charges normally with pd chargers.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The original Switch didn't confirm to USB-PD properly, I doubt the second one does.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EU law that mandated all devices under 100W to adhere to the USB-PD protocol only passed a few years ago. Comparing it to the switch 1 is invalid because it was designed before the mandate existed. I made my statement with knowledge of the mandate

if you want to doubt nintendo didn't follow it, nintendo is effectively illegally selling the switch 2

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago

Can't believe they did it again.
While on the Switch 1 it might have been because the USB PD spec wasn't fully finalized when it was made, on the 2 they're being actively malicious.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago

Can't believe they did it again.

I mean, really?

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

I guess I should say I'm impressed at their audacity instead of suprised...

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] hakase@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Everyone who actually buys a Switch 2 deserves exactly what they get.

[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

You're not wrong, though we should still advocate for consumer protections to stop this abuse.

[-] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 9 points 1 day ago

Just another example of Nintendo sucking.

I’m so glad I didn’t buy this piece of shit. Keep your junk, Nintendo. I’ll enjoy your games on PC when emulation comes.

Which is funny because I would have been a paying customer. But now I don’t have to!

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago
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