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Samsung phones can survive twice as many charges as Pixel and iPhone, according to EU data (www.androidauthority.com)
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[-] blah3166@piefed.social 35 points 1 month ago

From @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on a post over at !android@lemdro.id

Yeah this is just manufacturers self rating themselves. This is just like VW cars rating themselves as getting 5-10mpg better than their competitors, when really they were just measuring from the balls.

The up side is if they fail to meet those ratings then are the consumers entitled to some sort of compensation?

Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.

[-] JWBananas@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

This comment says otherwise:

https://lemmy.world/comment/18057099

How is battery life measured under this new EU regulation?

One interesting detail is that the battery endurance rating in the new labels is tested using the same software used by many tech reviewers: SmartViser. This French automation company works with labs and manufacturers to simulate real-world usage. So now, the battery performance you see on the label is based on consistent, lab-tested data, not just marketing claims.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

the actual legislation is not that specific as far as i can tell:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1669#anx_I

Article 5

Measurement methods

The information to be provided pursuant to Articles 3 and 4 shall be obtained by reliable, accurate and reproducible measurement and calculation methods, which take into account the recognised state-of-the-art measurement and calculation methods, as set out in Annex IV.

Article 6

Verification procedure for market surveillance purposes

Member States shall apply the verification procedure laid down in Annex IX when performing the market surveillance checks referred to in Article 8(3) of Regulation (EU) 2017/1369.

[-] blah3166@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Awesome! Good to know its based off some kind of standardized testing. This is good for everyone!

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

It kind of isn't. The EU is giving the cell companies guidelines on how they should test their batteries, and then report their numbers back to the EU. So "Apple" are testing their apple phones and then telling the EU their alleged numbers.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

It's also wrong. That comment is misinformation.

They are lab tested by a 3rd party in the EU, SmartViser.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Is piefed an instance?

[-] blah3166@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

Piefed is both an instance (piefed.social) and back-end server software that allows anyone to run their own instance (list of various Piefed instances). It works on the same ActivityPub protocol as Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin so they all interoperate with each other.

One of the cool things I like about Piefed is it seems to join the comments of various instances in cross-posts. On Lemmy, you can see its crossposted, but you have to manually check them out to see any comments on others. One cool feature I like over Lemmy. There's a few others, but I'd encourage you to check it out. You don't have to commit if you don't like it.

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[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Before anyone rushes to replace their phones my Pixel 5 is nearly 5 years old, still on original battery (would be on at least 1200 cycles) and is presently sitting at 92% and claiming 1 day 11hrs remaining. Off the charger since 9:45 this morning and used for streaming music to my car while I was driving earlier. It still easily holds over 24 hours charge in my usage, so if I forget to charge it at night it's usually around 40% in the morning and I can plug it in sometime in the morning to top up. Perfectly useable after almost 5 years, and this is pretty normal for Pixels in my experience.

Love the new EU measurement standards but per other people's comments above they do not seem to mandate strict third-party testing, but rather rely on manufacturers submitting their results and adhering to the set test standards. This has not worked out well in the past, it should be mandatory third-party.

Cannot wait to see the return of user-replaceable batteries (thank you again, EU).

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago

Your pixel 5 didn't just mysteriously die? There was a wave of them dying. Mine was part of the crossfire.

I loved the pixel 5 too, for like 3 years then mysteriously croaked.

Currently on the pixel 6 which is pretty good.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That’s strange, considering they all use the same battery suppliers.

[-] Zanz@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Samsung encourages battery provisioning in it by the user. So most people using a samsung only charge to eighty percent.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i did that for a month, it was actually more annoying than its worth, it made charge more often than i like. i was using a OPR12

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

How so? With heavy usage all my Samsung phones barely made it through a full day. I've never considered throttling the battery for the sake of longevity or been encouraged to by my phones.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It's all up to where you live and how you use the phone.

One day heavy usage is the goal. I charge my S24 to 80% but only lightly call, and moderate chatting. I can make it from 6am to 8pm and still have well over 25% when I get home. Little to no gaming or social networks though.

It helps that I live and work in an urban area with good antenna coverage. So the phone doesn't use too much power talking to the network. People who live out in suburbs and rural areas have worse phone battery life because the phone has to struggle talking with antennas further away. Battery life is complex and it goes beyond what personal anecdotes can show.

[-] Zanz@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

When you do the initial setup it asks if you'd like to optimize for battery health and most people say yes. Most recently it wouldn't even tell you that it was only charging to 80%.It would still charge to a hundred but that would actually be eighty percent. Around a year ago they changed it so now it says eighty percent when you're at full charge if you have the battery health turned on.

If you turn on the battery over provisioning you would see the same battery life at about a year and a half and then after that the provision battery will last longer. After the exploding phone they also provisioned five percent of all batteries.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

That’s rhe same with my iPhone 16, it just charges to 100 every so often

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Could be a difference in how they've set up charging cut off points.

[-] jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

It makes sense once you consider that these numbers are the manufacturers self reporting. That means they aren’t comparable, so drawing conclusions like ”manufacturer X has better batteries than manufacturer Y” from these numbers is silly.

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[-] LostXOR@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

I'm at 943 cycles on my Pixel 6 Pro and it's still going strong. I slow charge it every night and try to avoid fully draining the battery to slow down the deterioration, which seems to have worked pretty well. Thankfully a battery replacement is only $50 so it won't cost much when I do have to replace it.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I've got a P7 Pro and the battery is still fine. Adaptive charging enabled to help batter life.

Handed my P6 down to my daughter and it's still fine for her too

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[-] rimu@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.

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[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Sorry, no way I am going back to Samsung. I had the A71 and it was a TERRIBLE smart phone. I switched to the Pixel 6 and it was night and day.

I just need to get off my ass and install Graphene.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From a budget phone to a flagship?

Yeah, i can see how the difference would be night and day....

Regardless pixel is a great series of phone if the OS works for you then stick with google phones.

Personally i like samsung. Even if they have gotten pretty shady. Since i owned the s2 years back i have always found myself liking samsung.

Tried nexus 6, tried the OG pixel which i liked but ruined when i dropped it in a barrel filled with potatos and water. (No k wont elaborate, its more fun to leave you guessing)

Tried huawei and enjoyed my p20 pro and p30 pro but once the fold 3 came out i was back with samsung. Got a fold 6 now and am very happy.

If i recall, since the advent of smart phones, i went: Sony xperia x10, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S4 mini, Google Nexus 6, Google Pixel, Huawei P20 pro, Huawei P30 pro, Galaxy Fold 3, Galaxy Fold 6,

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

You're comparing apples and oranges. The A71 isn't supposed to be comparable with a pixel 9.

You're comparing the three-door Nissan to a Lamborghini

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

finally some good news for us Samsung victims/owners.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13

Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what's happening here?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Isn't one plus one of the brands that has their own fast charging tech, that's extra fast?

Makes total sense if they traded in longevity for speed.

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

That data is independently researched or Samsung gave that to the EU and it's published as-is?

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 7 points 1 month ago

The new law does not mandate third-party review. It's the innkeeper claiming that the wine is good.

[-] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago

But they don't have GrapheneOS 😟

[-] asdfbla@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately, the future of grapheneos is not certain anyway with Google going closed source on all the drivers and device trees

[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I find that I wear out the charging port before the battery. I don't even plug it in that much either.

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