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Been thinking along the lines of Planet of the Apes -but without any man made catastrophe, meteorite impact and climate stabilization- what sort of structures or evidence of our civilization would remain in five or six million years if we all just vanish? Would an intelligent species of evolved insects -or something else- find buried artifacts in the ground like we did the dinosaurs? Would ancient structures like the pyramids or Great Wall remain for that long, and would any modern things like the Eiffel tower, Burj Khalifa, or even some present day Doomsday Vaults survive that amount of time? In our digitized age, I assume that not much would remain, other than satellites maybe or I suppose any modern species that just happens to get preserved like a dinosaur did.

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[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago

I read a book by Alan Weisman titled The World Without Us, which covers this very specific topic. According to it, among the very last man-made structures left after hundreds of thousands – if not millions – of years would be the Channel Tunnel between England and France. Another notable example would be the stone faces on Mount Rushmore, as well as some old steel bridges built in an era when engineers couldn’t yet calculate structural load precisely, so they simply overbuilt everything.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

The biggest challenge for future intelligent species, and the reason why I know we're the first technological ones, is that we've mined all of the easily accessible metals and all of the easily accessible fossil fuels. Any intelligence arriving after us is going to have to make a civilization without iron, precious metals, oil, or coal. Unless you get into some sci-fi bio-engineering scenario where they're growing high tech, they're doomed to being stuck in the stone age. It's going to be hard for them to escape the planet, defend it from asteroids, deal with super-volcanoes, build advanced calculating devices... all of the stuff we would already find challenging even with all the resources we have.

Millions of years are not enough to replenish the fossil fuels, and the sun is going to start expanding before enough life lives and dies to produce any useful amount of biomass. Before then, more metals will become accessible, in places, but good luck working it at industrial levels without fossil fuels.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but we've given a severe handicap to advancing beyond a rudimentary agrarian society for any successor species; even if it's our own descendants re-arrising from a post-apocalyptic environmental catastrophe.

[-] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Metals are here, will recycle in the earth. Where will it go?

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Earth would never get fossil fuels back as their formation was dependent on lacking fungi to break plants down. This is indeed our one shot.

[-] Geobloke@aussie.zone 0 points 6 months ago

Well, no. Arabian oil is only a few million years old and peat, a precursor to coal, is still being formed. I could imagine new oil being formed in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Indonesian archipelago

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 6 months ago

Lower end of Earth being in the habitatal zone being just 1 billion years left. Our consumption of the easy to reach resources before them arriving to the scene, I think you're likely right.

Upper estimates are ~3 billion for habital zone, and Red Giant phase being ~5 billion years from now for factoid funsies.

[-] realitista@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

AFAIK metals don't really go away over time so I would think they would be easy to harvest from the metals that are here today, no?

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

According to What If, a layer of processed hydrocarbons in the geological record.

[-] r0ertel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

A totally not serious answer. Today, I was sitting across from a Starbucks and staring at the logo. It is really weird. I started thinking that if something were to happen to civilization, all these cups, sleeves, merchandise and plastic stir sticks emblazoned with the Starbucks logo may cause future archaeologists to think that we worshipped some half fish woman thing (or whatever the logo is supposed to be).

Alternatively, this xkcd could be fun to do.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You should check out the "documentary" (for lack of a better word) called ~~"After Us"~~ "Life After People." It is specifically about what Earth might look like if humans just suddenly vanished from the face of the Earth.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Came here to suggest this.

Cats basically just move along without a blip.

[-] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Seems interesting and tried looking it up without success. Could it be "Life After People" or "Aftermath: Population Zero"?

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago

Life After People is what I was thinking of.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

This is material for No Stupid Questions or Ask Lemmy communities, not a Showerthought

[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Showerexistentialdreads

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

See the Silurian hypothesis:

The Silurian hypothesis is a thought experiment, which assesses modern science's ability to detect evidence of a prior advanced civilization, perhaps several million years ago.

[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

In theory eventually any earth we lived on would be lost to tectonic plate movements and it would be like we were never here. And then the sun explodes so...

Depends on the time period honestly. Biggest signs are gonna be massive buildings or infrastructure projects. I wonder how long voyager will last just drifting?

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

The Earth would finally be safe.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Earth the planet is totally alright with everything we do. It's been through much tougher times.

We only endanger ourselves and other living creatures.

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