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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 45 points 9 hours ago
[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 32 points 9 hours ago

Does this mean things are going well? Bolsonaro’s other son — this one a sitting senator, not the congressman conspiring against his country in the US — suggested Trump back off the 50% threat and instead target individual Brazilians for sanction. He has since deleted the tweet

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 29 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The US leader Donald Trump has ordered the cancellation of the visas of Alexandre de Moraes (the Supreme Court Justice Bolsonaro attempted to kill), his family members and his “allies on the court”. It is not yet known whether by “allies” he means other Justices. Trump, through its Secretary of State Marco Rubio, states that “his administration will hold foreign nationals responsible for censoring protected expression in the United States accountable.”

Rubio: "@POTUS made clear that his administration will hold accountable foreign nationals who are responsible for censorship of protected expression in the United States. Brazilian Supreme Federal Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes's political witch hunt against Jair Bolsonaro created a persecution and censorship complex so sweeping that it not only violates basic rights of Brazilians, but also extends beyond Brazil's shores to target Americans. I have therefore ordered visa revocations for Moraes and his allies on the court, as well as their immediate family members effective immediately."

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 26 points 9 hours ago

foreign nationals responsible for censoring protected expression in the United States accountable

Word salad

[-] tricerotops@hexbear.net 21 points 7 hours ago

Meanwhile I can’t even bring my collection of rare JD Vances with me on vacation

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 64 points 12 hours ago

The Spectator: Ukrainians have lost faith in Zelensky

Check out this CRAZY bit

Ukraine’s social media is filled with daily videos of men being bundled into vans by recruitment officers. In the first six months of this year, Ukraine’s Prosecutor’s Office reported that it had opened 107,672 new criminal cases for desertion. Since 2022 some 230,804 such criminal cases have been instigated, suggesting that more soldiers have deserted the Ukrainian army than there are fighting men in today’s British, French and German armies combined

How long can this go on?

[-] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 37 points 12 hours ago

If the war continues soon there will be no Ukraine left to fight for,’ one former senior official in Zelensky’s administration tells me. They now believe their former boss is ‘prolonging the war to hold on to power’.

They're just printing people talking about Z man like he's Bibi? Maybe he actually is cooked?

[-] trompete@hexbear.net 34 points 11 hours ago

Trump's announcement to send Patriots to Ukraine seems to cause confusion:

Trump's mysterious arms "deal" (Süddeutsche Zeitung, in German)

When Trump finally announced that Patriot systems were already on their way to Ukraine, this was immediately denied. According to German government circles: “Nothing is in the bag yet.”

But it is still completely unclear when and from whom Ukraine can receive additional Patriot batteries, unless the USA itself is prepared to hand over its own systems.

It's not even clear how useful these Patriots are. They're not cost effective when shooting down Geran drones, and they can't reliably shoot down Russia's most advanced missiles. I guess they can shoot down something in between, but surely that's not going to make a difference.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 28 points 10 hours ago

If anything, it's just burning through the existing weapons to justify giving money to make new ones. That seems to be the biggest accomplishment of the last several years of NATO engagements, burning through everything that they had and banging the war drums to drum up another round of capital injections paid for by increasing austerity in NATO nations. It seems increasingly likely that we will reach a point in the next decade where NATO is doing their last ploy for power and realizes that someone stripped the copper out the walls of the MIC and never actually replaced those weapons they burned up to pay for golden parachutes at Northrop and Lockheed.

Russian forces liberated another ten settlements this week (seven in the Donetsk People's Republic, two in Zaporozhye oblast, and one in Kharkov oblast): https://sputnikglobe.com/20250718/russias-weekly-military-gains-precision-strikes-and-ten-liberated-settlements-1122455709.html

Some combat footage of one of these settlements (Voskresenka, in the DPR) being liberated: https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/voskresenka.mp4?_=4

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 33 points 12 hours ago
[-] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 34 points 11 hours ago

Love how they don't mention with a word that he was a Nazi

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 23 points 11 hours ago

I did not know that, in that case what happened to the hotel worker is a tragedy

[-] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 16 points 11 hours ago

Shit he has said or posted:

cw nazi shit

Literally nazi shit

How far are we willing to give up our identity and our culture and mix it with a completely different religion and ideology? What will happen to our WOMEN'S RIGHTS if we have to share this country with a culture where women have NO rights? History has already shown more than once that any attempt to do it anyway has NO future!

Orban simping

In a statement, Baumgartner indirectly proposed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán for the Nobel Peace Prize. The politician became known in the fall of 2015 for his rigorous refugee policy and the idea of border protection. Baumgartner comments:

"Because he did the only right thing. To PROTECT his COUNTRY and the PEOPLE who elected him!"

Vaccine shit

You must be a real jerk if you've been vaccinated five times (!), keep getting corona and then defend the vaccination. Bravo Florian Klenk FELIX #corona #vaccination #impfpflicht #florianklenk #pharmaHure #falter."

Martin Sellner simping (a literal austrian nazi, husband to Brittany Pettibone, a us nazi)

Felix Baumgartner called Sellner an eloquent and polite guest with strong arguments. He also praised ServusTV—owned by Red Bull—for being the first European channel to feature a member of the nazi Identitarian movement in prime time.

[-] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 33 points 12 hours ago

Apparently Hersh thinks Zelensky is cooked.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-end-for-zelensky Is anyone still subscribed and can get the full article?

[-] iie@hexbear.net 26 points 11 hours ago

There are many in Washington and in Ukraine who believe that the escalating air war with Russia must end soon, while there’s still a chance to make a settlement with its president, Vladimir Putin.

Or what? Serious question—short of nuclear war, what does the US have to lose by continuing this? Why not fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 41 points 11 hours ago

A complete collapse of the Ukrainian state means all western investments are lost. They would be better off at a certain point calling a truce and creating a rump state where their purchases are still valid. The west is fine pushing Ukraine to the brink, but to actually go over the edge of the brink into the abyss is good for nobody

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago

Could it be that fail-kids are in charge who don't understand this and care only about saving the "face" of western power, thus to them investments are not even considered so much as preventing a Suez crisis type collapse of the US image? Or it may be that they simply see this as a way to discipline financial capital or certain parts of it into more buy-in, into taking a big loss and using that to get them onboard with actually fixing production issues because it's finally hitting their speculative pocket books and to finally "wake them up".

In other words I think for planners of empire, at least some of them it may indeed be good to go over the edge and fight to the last Ukrainian. Russia isn't going to want to occupy western Ukraine and the west could always after beating on Russia for another year and gaining valuable field data on their weapons finally offer Russia something resembling a comprehensive security pact where Ukraine is excluded from NATO, Ukraine is de-nazified, Ukraine is kept disarmed. And the disarmed, humiliated, depopulated Ukraine is used for farmland and cheap labor under a western run but Russian friendly regime. After all the US hasn't fully finished de-industrializing and destroying the EU and Germany in particular. Keeping the war and thus EU-owning sanctions on for another 12 months could do a lot to really keep the EU from any chance of recovery and ability to compete with US power.

So I just don't know.

[-] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 43 points 13 hours ago
[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 39 points 12 hours ago

IIRC, it doesn't just ban "Communist propaganda", but even things like "class-based hatred", so it is even crazier than it sounds. As if equating Communism with the Nazis wasn't crazy enough.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 30 points 12 hours ago

I love being exploited by the bourgeoisie. Its an absolute pleasure, and I would cry if harm befell a single c suite executive

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 37 points 12 hours ago

but even things like "class-based hatred"

This is, like, recognizing that social classes exist but making it so that the lower classes can't speak about their hated of the upper class

[-] 9to5@hexbear.net 9 points 7 hours ago

Finally People of Means are getting the respect they deserve

[-] iie@hexbear.net 16 points 11 hours ago

If they’re openly scared of upward class antagonism, that seems kinda encouraging

[-] Beetle@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

Brave of them

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 33 points 12 hours ago

The only thing that I can say is Hillary 2028!

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 1 points 35 minutes ago

The next president is missing from this graph tucker-catboy

[-] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 20 points 10 hours ago

This is the shittiest Italian flag I've ever seen

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 19 points 11 hours ago

It's her turn cedar-rapids

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 31 points 12 hours ago

China-Serbia Peace Guardian 2025 Joint Training to be held this month

BEIJING, June 14 -- Army special operations troops of China and Serbia will carry out Peace Guardian 2025 joint training in North China's Hebei Province in the second half of July, said Senior Colonel Jiang Bin, spokesperson for China's Ministry of National Defense, at a press briefing on Monday.

"This will be the first joint training between Chinese and Serbian militaries. It will help strengthen combat capabilities of participating troops and deepen cooperation between the two militaries," he stated.

[-] PalestinianDream@hexbear.net 53 points 15 hours ago

yemeni missile launched and reportedly intercepted

ansarallah and resistance operations in palestine feel like the only thing keeping me afloat rn

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 60 points 16 hours ago

House overwhelmingly rejects Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's amendment to cut funds to Israel 422-6.

The six: Al Green (TX) Green (GA) Lee (PA) Massie (KY) Omar (MN) Tlaib (MI)

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 12 points 11 hours ago

Omar and Tlaib remain the only two good Congressmen.

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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 43 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

https://archive.ph/3pP4t

No time to waste: NATO chief urges rapid industrial mobilization

As the U.S. and its allies in Europe pledge to ramp up defense spending amid mounting global threats, the supreme allied commander of Europe is calling on industry to deliver real capabilities to the field in record time. “We can tell industry exactly what it is that we need for all the leaders that are out there. It’s our job, I think, to hold industry accountable to deliver quickly and to hold ourselves accountable for giving industry the ability to deliver quickly through our acquisition processes,” U.S. Air Force Gen. Alexus Grynkewich said July 17 during his first public speech since taking command at the Association of the U.S. Army’s inaugural LandEuro conference in Wiesbaden, Germany.

"hold industry accountable"? Uh, yeah pal, it's called nationalization and economic planning, but I'm afraid that's all lost technology, even the Adeptus Mechanicus can't figure out what it was all about. We just don't know!

“We’ve got to do this fast. We need real capabilities and we need them delivered as soon as possible. We can’t afford to wait, future pledges are no longer enough,” he said. “To do this, the defense industrial base on both sides of the Atlantic is going to have to become fully activated.” Grynkewich stressed there’s plenty of work to go around, it’s not a matter of investing in one or the other. “It needs to be one seamless industrial base that can deliver capability and capacity for the alliance,” he said. Moving quicker is easier said than done. Every country will have to contend with their own budget approval process and work through red tape across borders.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made a pledge earlier this year on a trip to NATO headquarters that the U.S. would conduct major foreign military sales reform. Even so, the U.S. military and NATO have developed solid regional plans beginning with a clear one focused on the Baltic States that will help guide government and industry in getting capabilities to units there. The U.S. Army Europe and Africa commander, speaking a day earlier at the conference, said the “Eastern Flank Deterrence Line” plan aims to enhance ground-based capabilities and drive military-industrial interoperability across the alliance.

As part of the plan to counter Russian threats and enable scalable, global deterrence, the Army and its NATO allies are urgently developing standardized, data-driven systems, common launchers and cloud-based coordination. The plan includes a system to share data. NATO has already procured that system – Palantir’s Maven Smart System – an artificial intelligence platform that takes a vast amount of data and rapidly analyzes information to help military commanders make decisions. U.S. Army Europe and Africa officials have also adopted Maven at headquarters, using it for mission command and visibility across the theater. The system has completely replaced PowerPoint briefings and offers information to commanders in real-time.

you know what's going to drag us out of our deindustrialization quagmire? that's right, THE CLOUD! AND AI!

On NATO’s wish list, according to Grynkewich, are capabilities that mirror a Ukrainian brigade. “How do we get our brigades to have the same level of capability where we can match what they’re able to do today?”

ah, so they're finally admitting that the Ukrainians are way ahead of them in terms of adaptation to the modern battlefield... but wait, aren't those guys, like, not doing too good? Uh oh! columbo-donk

Additionally, Grynkewich said he wants to focus on air defense. “There’s never enough air defense. You always want more, but it’s an acute requirement, whether it’s counter-[unmanned aircraft systems] or counter-ballistic missiles,” he said. And there will also be a continued focus on long-range fires, Grynkewich noted. “We need the capability to hold things at risk.”

Industry now has real incentives in place, Grynkewich said, with the new commitment made by NATO nations at the last summit to spend 5% of their gross domestic product on defense by 2035. “I would ask industry folks who are here and elsewhere to realize that sustained commitment should be a powerful signal to do the things you need to do, to expand production lines, to increase [research and development] spending, etc., so that we can get where we need to go,” he said.

"a signal to do the things you need to do" y'know, maybe you shouldn't need to fucking "signal" industry, like "oh pretty please expand your production lines, c'mon guys!", maybe you should be able to, I dunno, order them to do so?

Leadership is now moving to deliver new and emerging technology to the battlefield along with legacy technology that is still relevant and will work to make things interoperable. “I challenge each of the chiefs of defense, land forces commanders and every leader in here to hold themselves to account for that. There’s no time to waste,” Grynkewich said.

this guy really loves holding stuff accountable I guess

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Europe is going to figure out why Americans can't afford to live.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

I recently talked to two guys who works in management positions in medium sized business in the maritime industry. As expected they were both excited about the new business opportunities but they were also both at the same time cynical and delusional about the process.

They told about how years ago the Danish navy had invited industry representatives to begin the process of building new patrol ships. Lots of highly paid people have been holding lots and lots of meetings ever since. Recently, it was announced that instead of just buying new patrol ships, the entire Danish navy should be replaced, and the entire process started over from scratch. Not a single piece of steel has been welded together yet.

These industry people were very well aware that the industrial capacity to do what the regime wants simply isn't there. The infrastructure isn't there and they already have a shortage of skilled workers. These two guys were talking about sci-fi hail Mary's like AI robotics shipyards as the solution but it seemed like neither understood what they were talking about and it sounded more like wishful thinking than actual predictions.

This was just the maritime and ship building industry but I'm sure other military and dual purpose industries look the same. There will be no rapid industrial mobilization, simply because they're is no industry to mobilize. To do what they want would require decades of deliberate industrial policy, of explicit economic planning and would require a break with the neoliberal model of a deindustrialized imperial core that has proven extremely profitable for oligarchs.

[-] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 hours ago

"Pretty please industry, don't just submit cost overruns and increase quote amounts! We need you to give more for the same or less, not give the same or less for more!"

Begging private industry, a tried and proven to work strategy rofl

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago

I simply would have dodged

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 13 points 12 hours ago

Could have just entirely skipped the "die in an explosion" training course

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