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[-] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

I don't think many even know what a communist is or what communism is about. it just makes them feel upset when they hear the word because of constant corporate mass media conditioning.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 hours ago

Pretty sure a large chunk of Americans think that Russia is still communist.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

If they aren't, who's been pointing brain rays at me this whole time?

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago

The Russiagate libs who hold signs at protests that associate Trump with a hammer and sickle definitely still do. funny-clown-hammer

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 hours ago

One of the most hilarious things of late has been libs, who see themselves as a paragon of rationality, expose that they're just a different flavor of qAnon.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago
[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.

There's still a kinda fear of "socialism" and other stuff as specters, but it's internal. I don't think many here are looking at shit that's going down locally and saying "...Damn Russkies." I haven't seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that's kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “
Damn Russkies.”

What? "Damn Russkies!" is like the number one thing hardcore Democrat supporters blame for the state of the US

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

My neighbor blames every current problem on democrats by saying "they are communist" as his main point.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Nah.

Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals...

Its pretty much all 'he is a big bad scary communist.'

He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are 'commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!'

Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing ... but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of ... rainbow capitalism.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, Lemmy does not represent the average liberal in the US, not even close.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 hours ago

excuse me? both parties ran an explicitly sinophobic campaign, not once have the politician or their voting base looked inwards.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 hours ago

You have Trump doing Hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo and Bernie call it Stalinist cult come one

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 12 points 8 hours ago

Then what's all the China rhetoric about

Though to be fair I think it has died down a bit

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It used to be the justification for tariffs, but yeah, it really feels like it died down. MAGA targets have shifted to Europe, and more recently, Brazil.

Venezuela is a big one, too. Oh my god, my family will not shut up about Venezuela. But that's less new.

[-] jackeroni@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014

The anti-china crap has been present for years now

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

My blunt observation. People here in the US don't care.

They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn't give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn't give a shit about that either. It didn't move approval ratings one. Hair.

So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as "white" and be largely indifferent to the war, as it's not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.

So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:

Russophobia and Sinophobia

IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren't that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at "deport the foreign asians."

Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.

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