i dont know who or what to blame but some healthcare professionals are among the most cruel members of society
Some think they know biology sooo well, and that LGBTs are anomalies not worthy of life
That line of thinking also breaks down once you consider that life itself is the OG anomaly, and that the evolution of complex life was fueled by a never ending torrent of anomalies.
Damn straight. Same thing for pharmacists or any other health official.
The patients sexual orientation does in fact have no influence on their health. The only groups out of the LGBTQIA+ spectrum where you have some "right to deny" healthcare may be trans and intersex people due to them having special conditions and you might not have the knowledge to treat them accordingly. For the rest you are just batshit stupid if you care that much about what people do in their private time.
Yeah, I’m going to echo the other comment - I don’t think doctors should ever be able to deny trans people healthcare. If it’s something out of their expertise, a referral might make sense. But right now there’s a lot of movement towards denying us healthcare, and I don’t think we should be giving that side any more excuses for their bigotry.
In the 90s I had two different doctors tell me they would not see me as long as I was sexually active. Things seem better these days but its part of the reason us older gays are loathe to disclose to our doctors.
what about uniformed nazis or uniformed zionists?
"So who can I refuse treatment to?"
"That's the neat part. You don't."
never have refused. never will.
But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.
the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?
not an actual right. if you can’t provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, you’re in the wrong industry.
Interesting so you would feel obligated to save Hitlers life from an injury that would be fatal without ur intervention?
reductio ad absurdum.
the guy having a heart attack by the mcdonalds with nazi tattoos is a nazi. not the same as literal hitler. still an inhuman piece of shit. still worthless. still required to provide care. not the target of a worldwide multinational military operation requiring millions of russians to take berlin.
reductio ad absurdum.
I don't think so. If you do not retain the right to refuse service you must save Hitlers life. Given that the logic leads us to this ultimatum u must choose save Hitlers life ur retain the right to refuse service based on personal moral views.
think so
well then, you’re fucking wrong.
also “save life” different than “attempt”
Answer the ultimatum. That's all I ask.
your ultimatum was impossible to answer and absurd, so no.
your ultimatum was impossible to answer
Yes that's the point. U cannot hold any 2 beliefs without running into at least one contradiction. Do u compromise on one belief or do u continue living pracricing literal doublethink.
and absurd
All hypotheticals are, that's why they are a hypothetical
, so no.
I guess u have chosen doublethink. I wouldn't want to be on the side of the absolute authoritarian big brother but that's just me I guess.
Or move to Tennessee.
They want doctors who hurt the people they don't like.
Tennessee has some of the worst health care rankings and health care outcomes in the country.
Student: B-but what if I can't stand the sight of blood!?
Republicans: we hereby decree that physicians needing to see blood is part of the woke agenda. Henceforth we will be removing this requirement from all curricula.
This is almost assuredly a false narrative being introduced to make it seem like professors and schools are having to deal with some "flood of LGBTQ+ patients" who the new healthcare professionals suddenly have to deal with.
Just because the message seems positive, doesn't mean it's serving positive goals.
what goal does it serve in your opinion?
Normalizes the notion that it's normal at all to say things like "What if we don't feel comfortable around X" when most of liberal America is fine or uncaring at worst. Of course a professor will dismiss the question, it shouldn't be seen as something exceptional, it's not heroic to tell an idiot to shut up. It's continuing the atomization of ideologies. I don't even care if it's something that really happened, this kind of shit is used by both sides to ramp up hysteria. But I guess that ship has long since sailed.
If you haven't spent time actively reading and understanding how the right thinks, talks and shares with each other in their own online spaces, you will think it's ridiculous, so I don't know why I tried to pass the message along here in these very sheltered communities. Maybe it will give someone something to think about.
I mean it is normal to want to discuss anything. I think one of the main problems of today is actually we can't discuss anything for more than five minutes before someone gets lynched. But that is also because there are so many people that "discuss" stuff in bad faith that everyone else has probably lost faith in discussions.
On the issue of hysteria and normalizing stuff, in the span of a six months the US degraded from being the center of many branches of science and tech to a country that redacts its articles to censor words like transmission (because it contains trans, yea) and gender. I don't think you can call it hysteria when it is really happening and has become the new normal.
"you will think it's ridiculous"
I will think what is ridiculous? This event described in the meme? I find it worrying that someone gets so uncomfortable that he or she can't treat a person based on their sexual and or gender orientation. On the other hand everyone has their limits and being a doctor is hard and perhaps it really is not for that person or he or she can't deal with this. And this goes for both sides. You may be very liberally minded doctor but what happens when a wounded person they bring to the hospital turns out to be someone who raped a child? It is fucking brutal. If you can't even make it past sexual orientation, how the fuck are you going to deal with such stuff?
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