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[-] Harajukum@hexbear.net 119 points 1 year ago

we can finally settle this debate

aoc IS bad mao-clap

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

I was one of the last holdouts here. I was still weakly defending her maybe a couple years ago, but definitely not anymore. I actually can’t recall the last time anyone here had anything positive to say about her.

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

AOC got bled dry like all US "progressives"

Don't hate the player, hate the game

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Nah, she completely sold out and is looking like the next generations Pelosi after like 4 years.

At least it took bernie a few decades and multiple presidential runs for the dnc to completely neuter him.

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

There was the "AOC is doing what the unions want" guy

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Wasn't that LiberalSocialist? I have no idea if they actually believed anything or if they just liked starting struggle sessions.

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 107 points 1 year ago

She's doing what the Palestinian's want, actually. fedposting

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 90 points 1 year ago

I don't understand how anyone could be anti-Palestine.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

Colonizer solidarity. Shitbirds of a feather flock together.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Oh shit I just remembered she's Puerto Rican. Lol the experience of oppression truly does not bring solidarity, for many theory and education are required.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

A lot of US latinos are often the oppressors while cosplaying as one of us actually living under their thumb. Explains why so many are quick to claim indigenous ancestry even though they would probably be claiming European ancestry if they lived in Latin America.

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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I know, I know, but they seem tone-deaf.

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

One of the best selling musicals in the US consists of POC dancing and rapping happily as slave owners.

They will act all tough and invoke “antifa” when it comes to American WWII soldiers. But when they see genocide and oppression happening in front of their eyes, and publicly supported by Israeli politicians, they will close their eyes.

It’s like how Joseph Smith and Mormonism give us a modern account of how a mass religion is formed, and still millions of people support it despite the inhumane crimes. Israel is one of the countries that show us on our phones and screens how an apartheid state is formed and run, and millions of people still support it.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

gotta look at it in the context of the information people have available to them. A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice. There are few if any voices countering this in the major media channels, which almost all liberal channels and all GOP channels fully on-board. European countries have been engaged in racial violence and discrimination against Muslims, especially Arabs and North Africans, for centuries.

It's a Plato's cave thing. They're not deeply weird people like us who have access to information that counters Western propaganda. Western propaganda is their whole world. And even then, a lot of people know or suspect it's bullshit.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice.

until it comes to Xinjiang. Then it's opportunist time.

[-] Autonomarx@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Except even if you only go by the major capitalist media outlets you can see that they constantly fucking lie to justify war and imperialism. They lied about the Nayirah testimony, about WMD in Iraq, about attempted genocide in Libya, about Afghanistan having anything to do with 9/11, and so on. There are people totally alienated from the contemporary political landscape of the West because they understand that everyone only does bad things but they don't know how to stop it. The 'people' that swallow it whole recognize their interest in continued white supremacy and choose to reinforce the belief that it's good.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Because supporting oppressed people is akshually antisemitism, sweaty 💅

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago

Because ultimately the NIMBY type doesn't care about what happens to brown people so they aren't going to sweat the fact that the US subsidizes apartheid at the cost of tens of billions of dollars per year.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Because they're being paid a lot of money not to be

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Dems would be a lot more successful if they knew when to keep their mouths shut.

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

You ever tried to have a career as a high profile American politician?

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Never will.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

If Israel was an enemy of the West and not a strong ally, 90% of Americans would be supporting Palestine just on state propaganda alone.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Here let me show you the source code.

They aren't white.

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[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

zero citing example of the ''hatred and antisemitism'' in the article by the way.

Just for the info, Pelosi was a civil right activist before going into politics. Just like how AOC pretended to have helped unionize some workplace.

kicking the ladder for your constituents is not a bug, it's a feature

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

zero citing example of the ''hatred and antisemitism'' in the article by the way.

They don't because the US media and politicians have long made an effort to make it so that the public equivocates support for the Palestinian people with antisemitism. So simply asking the that Palestinians not be treated like animals is antisemitic. It's sickening.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

When you try to ask the UN to give Palestinian authority some semblance of justice, that's diplomatic terrorism

When you do BDS, that's economical terrorism.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ISRAEL DOES ETHNIC CLEANSING YOU FUCKING BUFFOON!

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[-] Florist@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

AOC is really speedrunning her turn into a Pelosi figure huh?

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

She wishes. It'll be a long time before anyone lets her get near a position of authority.

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

lord help me i'm gonna fedpost

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Lol, throwing around solidarity while demonizing people that just want their rights respected. Fuck off lib.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. Shut up! SHUT UP! matt-jokerfied

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Canadian New Democratic Party put out a better statement on the issue than any sitting America politician did. And the NDP's statement still had to do the "we condemn Hamas but" about it. Meanwhile Bernie, Fetterman, and every member of The Squad (including Omar and I'm decently sure Tlaib but I could be corrected on that) put out awful shit. Fetterman's was especially unhinged to the point where Felix quote tweeted it and said "Next time you're depressed skip the hospital" che-laugh

ETA: Looked up Tlaib's twitter and couldn't find anything. Guess she decided to stay silent. Thats actually better than any of the others did lol.

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

this fucking freak goddamn

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Fucking moron. Doesn't she have a celebrity talk show to go on? I'm sure that's of greater importance.

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Pelosi-tier progressive reformer to centrist grifter speedrun

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 year ago

She is a far-right dumbass

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

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