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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 90 points 2 years ago

I don't understand how anyone could be anti-Palestine.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago

One of the best selling musicals in the US consists of POC dancing and rapping happily as slave owners.

They will act all tough and invoke “antifa” when it comes to American WWII soldiers. But when they see genocide and oppression happening in front of their eyes, and publicly supported by Israeli politicians, they will close their eyes.

It’s like how Joseph Smith and Mormonism give us a modern account of how a mass religion is formed, and still millions of people support it despite the inhumane crimes. Israel is one of the countries that show us on our phones and screens how an apartheid state is formed and run, and millions of people still support it.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

gotta look at it in the context of the information people have available to them. A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice. There are few if any voices countering this in the major media channels, which almost all liberal channels and all GOP channels fully on-board. European countries have been engaged in racial violence and discrimination against Muslims, especially Arabs and North Africans, for centuries.

It's a Plato's cave thing. They're not deeply weird people like us who have access to information that counters Western propaganda. Western propaganda is their whole world. And even then, a lot of people know or suspect it's bullshit.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice.

until it comes to Xinjiang. Then it's opportunist time.

[-] Autonomarx@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Except even if you only go by the major capitalist media outlets you can see that they constantly fucking lie to justify war and imperialism. They lied about the Nayirah testimony, about WMD in Iraq, about attempted genocide in Libya, about Afghanistan having anything to do with 9/11, and so on. There are people totally alienated from the contemporary political landscape of the West because they understand that everyone only does bad things but they don't know how to stop it. The 'people' that swallow it whole recognize their interest in continued white supremacy and choose to reinforce the belief that it's good.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Because supporting oppressed people is akshually antisemitism, sweaty 💅

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago

Because ultimately the NIMBY type doesn't care about what happens to brown people so they aren't going to sweat the fact that the US subsidizes apartheid at the cost of tens of billions of dollars per year.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

Because they're being paid a lot of money not to be

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Dems would be a lot more successful if they knew when to keep their mouths shut.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

In fairness to AOC specifically, this is really the first time that she went a bit too far.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Off the top of my head, she also supported the Biden admin strikebreaking. I'm sure there's others; she's just a standard Democrat with progressive styling at this point.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Voted to give Israel money for the Iron Dome.

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

No, she couldn't even wait six months into the Biden admin to say that leftist criticisms of him were all bad faith and that he's beating all of our expectations lol

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

If Israel was an enemy of the West and not a strong ally, 90% of Americans would be supporting Palestine just on state propaganda alone.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

You ever tried to have a career as a high profile American politician?

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Here let me show you the source code.

They aren't white.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago
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