The big marketing push for VPNs where they sponsor absolutely anyones videos always made me suspicious.
Mullvad
Proton VPN if you are torrenting, since Mullvad closed off port forwarding... :/
Is there any good reason for them to disable port forwarding?
People were using it to host CSAM and more relevantly to their decision to also run malware C&C servers behind it.
why do people trust this one more? is there any proof more they delete their logs than the others?
Mullvad has open-sourced a lot of their infrastructure, and really it all checks out.
They've had multiple independent audits that show that their VPN infrastructure is indeed diskless (RAM only, no permanent storage), and they run what they say they do. Even if they wanted to store all of their logs for the police, it shouldn't be practical for them to do so.
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/8/9/infrastructure-audit-completed-by-radically-open-security
Other ran the audits how do you know that their running an implementation of what the open sourced? what are the orgs that run the audits?
Bit concerned you're asking questions that aren't just answered by the webpage oscardejarjayes linked to, but by the link itself "completed-by-radically-open-security".
I 100% get the skepticism, but VPNs inherently require trust on the other side, it's literally impossible to actually "prove" it's legit. But this is also true of any means whatsoever to connect to the internet. You cannot be truly anonymous online unless you rely on SOMEONE to obscure your identity for you.
Mullvad have done the best means of building up evidence, if ever got found out as lying, they'd immediately lose 90%+ of their customers.
And to be honest, allowing and actively encouraging customers to pay by cash would make them a pretty shit Fed honeypot, too.
Bit concerned with your VPN evangelism steering people away from actually secure solutions like I2p
These auditors specifically are Radically Open Security out of Amsterdam, their website lists their team with names, pictures, and descriptions, I picked one at random and they had a realistic web presence.
There is no way to prove what they are actually running, other than audits. Anything a legit system could send, a malicious one could send too.
As another poster mentioned, after a raid the police had nothing.
I have an acquaintance that works there also and my impression is that they are very serious about the task at hand. Hence why there are no user names, no subscriptions and the option to pay with crypto or even mailing cash in an envelope - apparently quite a few people do this, some using newspaper clippings for the user ID.
Only thing I hear about them is that they got raided and police walked away empty handed since they genuinely had nothing, but I’d love to hear more what else specifically makes this provider more trustworthy tbh
The source for the lack of evidence retrieved being the police themselves?
tinfoil hat on but great way to set up a honeypot
A high percentage of VPNs even ones based in Russia and the like hand data to their own governments, which in turn is given or stolen by the Israelis
I was wondering about this. I noticed that most of the anti-zionist news subs on Reddit were all blocked by this.
From time to time theregister .co.uk or some other specialized techie rag reports on “international operation led to FBI to arrest criminals operating VPN (or encrypted phones) ‘used by criminals’ “ They pop from time to time. You can deduce that if your VPN really works against state actors, you will be arrested. You can also deduce that all popular VPN are not secure against state actors. Bcs why those dastardly criminals wouldn’t use some “no logs honest” major VPN?
Maybe this is why everytime someone posts a reddit link here and I click without thinking I get a "blocked" page on reddit. My VPN (mullvad) isn't just handing my data over to Israel.
My VPN (mullvad) isn't just handing my data over to Israel.
It probably isn't, I wouldn't put all my trust in one company though. They're Sw*dish after all.
What about being Swedish?
It's mostly a joke but Sweden is a country largely aligned with US and thus also with Israeli interests, it's not exactly inconceivable they'd pull strings to compromise Mullvad if they deem it necessary.
The blocked pages are how you know it's working
Any thoughts on proton?
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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