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[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Am I too old? I only trust hard saving to offline storage. Be that an external hdd or a flash drive.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

people just never learn that companies cannot be trusted...time and time again, they work to steal and claim ownership of your intelligence.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

people don't need to learn that. these things need to be regulated. also Google needs to be broken up to like 12 pieces or nationalized. what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

There is zero chance that we can get the oligarchy to surrender power peacefully, so that's not going to happen unless…

^For^ ^legal^ ^purposes^ ^this^ ^comment^ ^is^ ^a^ ^joke^

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Famously Americans did the splitting thing once before with Standard Oil and it was immensely beneficial to the economy in general. Just checked the wiki and it was more than 100 years ago. Unlikely the same laws are still on the books.

There are several companies currently active that deserve the same treatment.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hey we did the same thing with AT&T! Split them into a bunch of smaller companies which then merged back together after a few years...shit...

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[-] Almonds@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in university (as an old) and just about everyone from faculty to staff has been pushing me to put everything in OneDrive. I know better, but young people tend to trust that an educational institution is looking out for them.

My freshman year I met teenagers who didn't know what a flash drive is. Most of them have iPads with no storage, one of my classmates was just uploading all her lectures directly to YouTube so she could review them later.

There's nothing wrong with putting everything in OneDrive... as long as you also have it somewhere else.

At work we're told to put everything into OneDrive and we're blocked from using USB drives, or using any other online storage. Fortunately all of the data I use and create on my work computer belongs to my employer, so if they only trust MS with their data then who am I to argue?

[-] Almonds@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, I understand why employers use it. Oddly, I used to work for Microsoft and can't remember using OneDrive for our projects lol

But as a student I really prefer saving stuff locally and to a separate storage device. The university system has been hacked at least once since I've been a student, we all lost our credentials and were required to physically go to the campus to reset them. The university also revokes access three years after graduation.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oddly, I used to work for Microsoft and can't remember using OneDrive for our projects lol

They knew better than to get high off their own supply

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[-] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

Don’t trust cloud companies.

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

Don’t trust companies.

[-] rarWars@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

Don’t trust.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

And there are people who think you're joking, reductio ad absurdum.

You can't trust your own computer, because the hard drive might go bad at any moment, so you backup up a USB drive. But you can't trust that backup, because your house could burn down, or get flooded, or get caught in a tornado; so you back up to cloud, too. But you can't trust that because, well, cloud.

At some point, you just have to accept that there will always be risk, no matter what you do. You take steps to minimize it until your comfort level exceeds the cost or PITA-ness of your backup solutions, but those who know, know you can never guarantee you've covered all the bases.

Don't trust, indeed.

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The extra word is not needed. The most accurate version is just:

Don’t.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

Really this is the most correct. Saves so much time. Just don't.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

It’s worth noting that Google is 100x worse than the baseline level of sucking when it comes to randomly deleting your account with no recourse.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

TLDR: make multiple backups

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, the very first lesson I'd teach in my multimedia 'authoring' class: Back your shit up, here's 11 ways to do that; if you EVER tell me you lost your work as an excuse I'm going to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE as I assign you a ZERO.

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

a bit harsh, but often the most important lessons in life are those that hurt the most.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

This is extra bad because they want you to use cloud files in gdrive (I can't remember what the feature is actually called), which doesn't save the content locally on your computer, but puts an icon that will download the content from Google servers when you click on it. This means you have no local backup of your data in your computer backups.

[-] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

And even then, if you make sure to copy the actual file, you'd still depend on them to open it if it's in their proprietary format.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

Cloud can be a backup, it absolutely should never be your only copy.

But keep in mind they will probably use that data for anything they want, like training AI models. So make sure you are ok with them doing that on any data you put there. This is mostly why I fill my cloud space with incoherent nonsense.

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Is local storage even safe from big corp just remotely nuking your files? I'm sure there's a secret button somewhere to mass delete photos from people's phones incase they start rolling in the tanks to crush a protest.

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't think they can nuke files from my linux computer.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Is your CPU open source? I bet you have a Intel ME or AMD PSP on your computer.

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but how are they going to wipe my offline backups?

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

if a government or corporation or whoever is seeking to delete your personal files specifically, i think you have much bigger problems to worry about

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[-] rami@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

well I'm happy I know those exist now but its a little scary what with everything else going on in the world.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Alternately, if you don't live in China, Zhaoxin makes x86-64-compatible CPUs. No need to worry about the Chinese government/corpos helping the American government/corpos tyrannize it's own citizens.

They're not quite as good as intel/AMD in perf or effeciency/dollar.

[-] Xkdrxodrixkr@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

If you're running a corpo os on your hardware this could very much happen

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is, we really don't know what's in the hardware, how do we know there isn't a "Intel ME" on your phone that is just hibernating, waiting for the right kill signal?

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly, could be explosives.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

They said Intel ME, not Israel ME.

[-] 2910000@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Be careful who you trust with your data! And back it up

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[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Always, always backup. And frequently! Don't trust your local harddrive (especially if it's a device you frequently take with you), don't trust flashdrives, don't even trust your local fileserver if it doesn't have built-in backups (and even if it does, check that those backups actually work). If it's not saved on at least two physical places (two drives in the same PC/server count, but it's sketchy on its own), it's not backed up!

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

3-2-1 Backup: 3 copies, on 2 types of media, 1 of which is offsite.

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[-] Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

https://takeout.google.com/

You can download stuff off your Google account here. Select what you want, not all or it might fail. Choose format, and wait for the email.

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