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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 144 points 1 month ago

Just to fast-forward this dumb cat-and-mouse thing, the next step is people go back to torrenting their porn and deeper down the rabbit hole of garbage "free" websites skirting the rules.

As always, the UK is useful on the international stage because sometimes you need to be able to point at some idiot trying dumb stuff to explain to people why dumb stuff is dumb.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

It does feel that way. UK bureaucracy is just one giant guinea pig stunting it's own commonwealth.

Next someone will try enforcing paper umbrellas as a solution for climate action. We'll all say, "That won't work". They'll still do it; it won't work. We'll say, "We told you so", and it won't get reversed because they're already aiming at the next foot to shoot.

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[-] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago

100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went

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[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Then, we move to the socks proxy, or tor, or other options I haven’t even considered yet.

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[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

[-] lath@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago

Surveillance due to paranoia due to all the shady shit they're doing.

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[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Must protect the children

[-] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Christian evangelists at the root of it all. 'nuff said.

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[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 83 points 1 month ago

the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems

The government: Parents have you tried being a parent to your children?

Parents: Oh lord no that's too difficult can't you just, I don't know lol, ban it or something?

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In my English textbook, ca. 2007 there was a comic of a child in a cage hanging outside the house. The father told the neighbor something like "This way they get out of the house, but stay off the streets."

I think that hit quite well, what many consider parenting in the UK.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 65 points 1 month ago

Best of luck with that, idiots. How are you planning to tell the difference between my personal VPN and my work VPN?

[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Well we just fire you, and the one you’re still using then must be your personal one!

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Next step: ban on remote work.

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 month ago

Isn't this currently what Russia is trying to do with their internet?

[-] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

It's something russia has been doing for a decade and got pretty good at.

A long term blanket vpn ban is not compatible with a modern digital infrastructure, but with certain protocols (openvpn, wireguard) they can detect their usage and filter them out when necessary.

It does require a lot of expensive DPI (deep packet inspection) hardware I'm not sure UK has, so building a Great Firewall of Britain (Hadrian's Firewall?) will take some time.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

That sounds a bit like fear mongering from Reform: a VPN is safety 101 when using public networks, and most businesses make use of VPNs to secure their data. They are also a key component if WFH (you use the company VPN).

If Labour are stupid enough to go after VPN usage, I suspect it would guarantee their loss at the next election.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago

Eh, I dunno. The vast majority have no idea what a VPN is. If a VPN ban benefits Rupert fucking Murdoch then the tabloids will wang on about how they're used by paedophiles and people smugglers and that'll be that.

[-] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Next up, zeros and/or ones

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Why not just ban all human rights while you're at it?

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Little by little!
Can't do it all at once or the ~~peasants~~ populace might catch on!

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[-] doctortofu@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago

Come on UK, just skip all the boring parts and make unremovable collars for everyone fitted with GPS, cameras and miniature bombs that can be remotely detonated. After all, that's the only way to make sure nobody is doing bad, very bad illegal stuff and to PROTECT THE CHILDREN, isn't it? Fucking hell, these fucks really are trying to create a bloody dystopia...

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

If they outlaw VPNs then all internet-connected businesses will flee and everyone will just move to the dark net. Then you’ve got a whole other problem.

These ancient tyrants are in over their heads.

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[-] thenose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose

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[-] Luouth@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Bye bye UK economy. How do you expect businesses to work without VPNs?

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[-] KonnaPerkele@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

This kinda proves that it was never about the children. How many children have know how and the means to buy a VPN subscription?

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[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Ah, fascism on the rise.

[-] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Freenet, I2P and Tor will be the new refuge

[-] JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

If this comes to anything I'm moving to somewhere in the EU and pursuing citizenship there. This is clearly not about protecting the children anymore (not that it ever was).

[-] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 month ago

EU is about to do the exact same thing. Norway is the place to be. That's where I went - at least according to my ip address.

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[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Oh, that would be hilarious to watch.

[-] troed@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

I could definitely see myself setting up a Wireguard VPN only allowing connections to a bunch of porn sites here on my home fiber in Sweden. Should make a nice little side profit.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago
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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

"It has come to our attention that we haven't fascismed hard enough, nor in sufficient detail"

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

But they can't seem to muster up the "political" will to tax the rich

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 9 points 1 month ago

They can come and pry TOR from my cold dead hands lmfao

this law can eat shit. i ain't gonna dox myself and feed my personal info to companies. maybe they should take this as a hint that most people care about their privacy

if you don't want kids seeing NSFW stuff be an actual parent and don't raise your kids on the internet??

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[-] arc99@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It would have been smarter for the UK to mandate that every ISP must provide a family filter for free as part of their service. Something that is optional and can be turned on or off by the account holder but allows parents to set filters (and curfews) if they want. They could even require that ISPs require new signups to affirm if they want it on or off by default so people with families are more likely to start with it enabled.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

The problem is that content filters don't work all that well in the age of https everywhere. I mean, you can block the pornhub.com domain, that's fairly straightforward ... but what about reddit.com which has porn content but also legitimately non-porn content. Or closer to home: any lemmy instance.

I think it would be better if politicians stopped pearl clutching and realized that porn perhaps isn't the worst problem in the world. Tiktok and influencer brainrot, incel and manosphere stuff, rage baiting social media, etc. are all much worse things for the psyche of young people, and they're doing exactly jack shit about that.

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[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Safety" meanwhile these same mp's can't budget can't run critical public services like bloody hospitals.

But don't worry, your thoughts and activity are policed.

Democratic failure to prioritise and run a country at its finest on display for the world to see. The waste is astounding.

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Will the next step be banning VPS then? Because that's what will happen: if you ban VPNs (good luck with that lol), people will just connect to a VPS in a less stupid country and exit from there.

I hope they start looking at TOR too, that should be really fun.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Tfw Big Brother is charmless potato named Keir Starmer.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Not even China can ban VPN entirely, because businesses use it as a security measure.

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[-] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

This online safety bill is dishonest. This has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with money.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Freedom from EU regulation. 😋

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Geeze I hope I don't...slap tailscale on a vps

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Someone should start a bussiness near the border of Republic of Ireland and get two antennas pointed at each other across the border, with the RoI side having connected to the free internet, then the UK Northern Ireland side connected to the Intra-net. You pay a "Club Membership Fee" to get access to the proxy network.

Its not a VPN, its a Nerd Techie Club, just with a free proxy service as part of the club membership 😉

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[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

That sounds awful lot like dictatorship...

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