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Applied retroactively and recursively, it would strip citizenship from effectively all Americans
That’s the point. They have a weapon that can be used against anyone, and it’s already shown they don’t care about due process. The courts gave him everything he needs.
I think this is a great point. If they dispute the immigration status of your great grandpappy, oh looks like you're an illegal based on this purely unconstitutional "inherited status" doctrine.
Edit: The 14th amendment specifically mentions "born" in the US to prevent the use of the law to do things like this aimed at former slaves. Its no surprise that this kind of thing is being attempted by maga nazis.
It's going to suck to have to carry in depth genealogical records everywhere
I mean, you could carry the 2nd to defend the 14th
Right?
I'm wondering if there's a way I can use this to get deported to the lands of my great great great great grandparents (Germany or the Netherlands or somewhere idk)
They wouldn't take my stupid ass otherwise
No they’ll send you to CECOT or just make you stateless and dump you somewhere random with nothing
Don't worry they're already floating the idea of slavery so illegals can work farms
My DNA is such a fucking mashup that I could theoretically go to almost any European country.
Take me back.
I'm wondering about this also except my lawful parents have been here only about 30 years. I don't know if their legal status when I was born is 'legal enough' for me to remain even when birthright was perfectly intact at the time. I'd probably have three options of countries to go to. But only if they will accept 'stateless U.S. citizens' is another matter because the Global North is gungho about anti-immigration and that includes asylum.
Nah, they'll send you to CECOT or fucking South Sudan in stead
My dirt farmer ancestors got here in like 1890, too late to fight against the Yahnkeez, just in time to steal land from the Indians.
So I guess I'm either Scottish or stateless now. I'm not sure which is worse. (Just kidding, Scots)
Does this include Marco Rubio, whose grandfather was an illegal immigrant?
Or Trump's wife who he bought from Epstein?
Wouldn't this mean that Trump's father who's parents were German and his mother who was born in Scotland weren't citizens when he was born on American soil, hence he himself isn't?
Of course they will never let it apply to themselves.
Fascist regimes delight in and depend on arbitrary enforcement of rules.
No it ain't, experts have been telling us the whole time that no one is safe.
Fucking fascists. We should still be accepting immigrants through Ellis Island (in my humble opinion)
How will this impact the people in the Epstein Files?
Donald J Trump
All Republicans
Half of Democrats
Wow. I Didn't Know That. You're Telling Me Now for the First Time
To that end, USCIS declared flatly that the children of immigrants who are “unlawfully present” will “no longer be U.S. citizens at birth.” They will, instead, inherit the status of their parents, rendering them detainable and deportable as infants and throughout their lives. There is no indication that the government will provide some grace period before snatching up and imprisoning this new underclass of noncitizen babies; they are apparently subject to arrest from the moment of birth.
it’s not much of a stretch to assume they’ll do the same to people born here three generations down. or six. or twenty.
fucking pieces of garbage worthless nazis these admins and anyone who supports them are.
Yeah that's smart, expel themselves
if we’re lucky they’ll follow their leader.
So, recursively and retroactively. So who is a citizen then? People who pay the $5m? People who are naturalized? Party loyalists? Does servitude guarantee citizenship? I would like to know more.
The more of these boxes you can check, the “safer” you are….
White.
Wealthy.
Straight.
Male.
Christian.
And well-connected and have rightthink. Those are more important than the others. You can check all your boxes, but too much wrongthink and you'll be against the wall before you know what's happening.
Isn't birthright citizenship a human right or UN right or something?
And you think trump cares?
I don’t. But it might be extremely difficult to approve.
Yeah, just like it would be really hard to do any of the constitution breaking things he has done over the years... He just does it, the supreme Court will give him a thumbs up and that's the end of it
What even is the point of having a court then? I don’t understand how the people are so calm and chill about all this. America is literally doing third world things and no one really cares.
I don't know, I don't have the answers.
I'm just sitting here watching the slomo trainwreck in progress while munching popcorn. It's all there is left to do
Yeah, it is not really happening till it affects us.
@xylol Is one of those who brought it up.
One of the steps that will lead to mass corporate slavery.
"Former" Americans will be bought and sold, or "disposed of", to pay off their "debt" for being allowed to stay on American soil.
The United States has granted birthright citizenship to virtually all children born on its soil since 1868.
No, not virtually all. Less than that. Most, yes.
What do you mean? Which children born on US soil since 1868 were not granted birthright citizenship?
Indian tribe members born in reservations.
A DuckDuckGo search says that since 1924 native Americans living on reservations also get birthright citizenship. I suppose there may be a handful of native Americans born before then who are still alive, but I doubt many.
Don't worry, the Indians born on reservations before 1924 weren't born after 1868.
The original statement didn't specify that it only applied to people alive today.
So. This is what will cause a revolution. Believe that.
Will anything cause a revolution?
From an outside-the-US perspective, it feels as though every incremental assault the USA’s constitution is met with a bit of tut-tutting and complaining about why elected members don’t fix things, then back to apathy 48 hours later.
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