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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/relationship_advice@lemmy.world

Update (for myself more than anything): I called everything off. I can't do this thing anymore, and it's clear that's where things were headed. Nothing's changed on my end in 20 years, not going to change any time soon.

This is a weird deal even for me, so I apologise beforehand if anything ends up being unclear in the text.

For a bit of context, she and I used to be high-school class mates and got along very, very well. Used to hang out constantly, became very close, she even became my first significant non-familial, non-platonic affection (dunno what else to call it given when it started developing). Didn't go anywhere due to circumstances at the time (and mostly because I didn't even know what to do with it) but we remained close friends and grew even closer.

In our last year, though, I started dating my first long-term SO, and I drifted away from my best friend (ex was very jealous, so I stupidly reduced all contact with the people I knew would trigger that in her). We then both left for Uni (I moved to the other end of the country, she went abroad) and stopped communicating entirely.

It's been almost two decades since then. We'd met up a decade ago and chatted for a bit when she spent some time over here, but it was very awkward and, honestly, irrelevant as far as where we'd been before that. I was an emotional mess at the time, so basically nothing more than a steaming heap of vaguely anthropomorphic meat.

Last week I got a connection request from her on my professional profile, completely out of the blue - for added context, my presence on Socials is minimal-to-none, mainly only accounts which don't carry my real name. I accepted it thinking nothing of it, then shortly after she sent me a message. Told me she started having a reocurring dream in which I was always present but wasn't talking to her because I was upset with her, and she got worried that it was the same in real life (I repeat, we haven't talked for pretty much two decades). I told her honestly that I had no reason whatsoever to not want to talk to her and that I wasn't upset with her in any way (never been).

We switched apps, then continued to text semi-regularly. It was awkward at first, lotsa' long pauses between texts (1-2 days) as we've both been busy, but yesterday we both caught a break and spent pretty much the entire day texting. Chatted about a lot of random things, about life, swapped a lot of music (I always loved her taste), basically got back in the old groove.

And that's the problem, apparently. I got very excited, she did, too. Also got flooded with memories of our dynamic from back then, because it seems to not have skipped a beat. Same dry yet goofy sense of humour, same wonderfully complex conversations, same feeling of it being safe for me to be open and honest with her. Conversations with her really are a treat, she always made me want to be better, to think harder and deeper, to be honest with both of us. We'd both remarked how much we've missed talking to each other even though neither of us had thought about it until now.

I woke up today at 4AM with a flutter in my chest and I suddenly realised I'm falling in love with what I'm now "seeing" of her. It's a lot of forgotten familiarity which still applies, apparently, but also the ways in which she's been shaped by these past two decades. We've both gone through a lot and did a lot of growing, but we're still very much the same people we used to be when interacting with each other. Feels kinda' like some old seeds finally managed to hit dirt and take root.

I don't think I want this, though. I see it as yet another hopeless romance on my end, and I'm very tired of these... I don't know how to proceed with the situation, to be honest. If circumstances were different, I'd probably shoot my shot and be done with it (i.e. be honest about my feelings) after letting things settle a bit, but given we're several countries apart with no plans of moving any time soon and relatively established lives, I don't see how anything would even be possible between us. I'm talking hypotheticals here, with the biggest one being that I don't even know what's going on on her end (although my naturally pessimistic tendency is to say "absolutely friggin' nothing, you dumb idiot") - still a bit blindsided by the sudden reappearance, yes, but I simply have to think things through clearly, which is why I'm considering every aspect I can think of. It does feel really nice having her in my life again, though, and I can tell she feels the same way about it. Plus she literally told me that.

To clarify, I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I'm not daydeaming about it, I'm actually in Hypervigilant Problem Solving Mode, because I really don't want to hurt myself with things like this anymore. This is a reaction related strictly to what I feel right here and now.

I ask and thank you for any possible thoughts, advice, anything you have for this.

P.S.: as another potentially relevant variable, unfortunately, I get over Love™ slowly, and it's usually a difficult process for me. I tend to pour all of my heart into the people I love (I'm passionate, this is how I feel it, not complaning or looking to change it), so it's hard to recover even after brief/light episodes. I usually need to play things tactically, and the only thing which has worked so far has been cutting all contact.

P.P.S.: I wasn't even looking for romance, ffs... I just want to get my life in order...

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[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't really understand what the problem is from your text. Why exactly do you not want this? Seems like you like each other, seems like you wanna be together, the only obstacle is to figure out how to meet each other, which you don't seem to have talked about, neither here nor with her. Seems to me like that's the only thing that's missing, and travel is really not much of a problem this day and age.

So, what is the actual problem? Why do you not want this?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well, if things were any different, yes. I gotta be honest about this, would be psyched about getting the chance to see where things would go with her. She's a wonderful person and I have loved every second spent in her company. I've also always appreciated her aesthetically, so attraction's a done deal.

But the thing is that, in this moment and as I understand it, this is purely one-sided. I mean this in the sense that, other than demonstrating excitement and enjoyment during our conversation and specifying she missed me and is glad to have me in her life again, there is nothing to indicate any other intention than rekindling the friendship we had. We did swap a lot of steamy sax music, but we both played it off sorta' goofily, so I refuse to read into it.

And even besides this, our life contexts aren't really conducive to a potential relationship as they are now. She has an established career where she's now living, she has a solid social circle, basically she has a life there. Mine's more on the rickety side, but I have the bases covered, in that I want to be here and try to figure stuff out. I could move if needed, fortunately, but there are no reasons for me to do so right now.

And, yeah, I would very much enjoy a maintained contact between the two of us, as I've missed her dearly without even realising it, apparently, but I am positive this'll end up growing far beyond just friendship with her on my side*. It has precedence, I still don't get how I've managed to maintain a solid friendship with someone in whom I had romantic interest while I was a clusterfuck of traumas and hormones.

But that's the problem, I guess. I know I will end up loving her, because I already kinda' do. But this most certainly does not seem like the time or the place for it.

[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

So maybe tell her... exactly this?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm honestly dead scared of mentioning anything of the sort to her... Not only because I've lost one or two friends this way over the years, but firstly and foremostly because I don't want to cause any sort of discomfort on her end.

I dunno how to put this, to pe perfectly frank, it's... different with her. I have an overwhelming amount of respect for her. Not that I've ever disrespected anyone, it's just that... I see her. I think I really see-see her, I get her, I understand her, her limits, her needs, her points of discomfort, and I know romantic awkwardness is one of them. And I don't blame her, I know it can be really uncomfortable to be on the receiving end even without having a particular dislike for it.

In addition, I'm scared of potentially jeopardising this still-nascent rekindling. It genuinely feels wonderful having her in my life again, and I don't want to lose this. I have no friggin' clue how I'm gonna deal with it if/when everything grows even more inside me, but bridge I've yet to reach, I guess.

Edit: hell, I don't even know if she's single!

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

just gonna to say this, you spent nearly 2 decades without speaking. best case scenerio you ask her if she ever felt that way about you, and shes says yes. then move forward form there. worst case she says no, and then you, as an adult, respect that, and move forward as the adults you both are now. or she totally ghosts you and you move on and dont speak for several more decades. either way youll survive.

however, it doesnt have to be all or nothing. if shes as cool as you say she is, she'll understand. its kind of difficult for two people of the opposite gender to be such good friends and then not question a mutual attraction from time to time. just be casual about it, dont force her into a corner or anything. if she doesnt see you that way, then just be a good friend. thats all you need to be. a romantic relationship is just friendship with sex and attraction, so you can still be friends without that. life isnt a movie. shes a grown ass woman, she'll understand.

just ask, or live not knowing and suffer for it. but dont be weird about it, be casual. be cool about it, ya know?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just don't wanna bungle this up. Not with her. I'm pretty clumsy when it comes to dealing with stuff like this and I don't want to be clumsy with her. Don't get me wrong, I've grown too old and tired to be able to go into an existential whirlwind about it anymore, but it's enough as it is.

Either way, it'd be far too early for anything of the sort, I think. We barely got a solid day's chat in after reconnecting for a week, I need to confirm my feelings to myself before I could say anything with an acceptable degree of certainty (I know people can change in unexpected and subtle ways, and twenty years means a lot of potential change). It's to protect both her and myself from jumping the gun.

And to add... I've always found that verbalising these things makes them "real." That, in turn, increases the difficulty of playing it cool if it's not reciprocated. I just don't want to muddy the water, for either of us.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, if you don't want to, then just do nothing. I think you know your options. For falling out of love (which is what you want?) I find it useful to focus on characteristics of the person that can be interpreted as problematic for you. Use anything and don't be fair.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thank you! This is why I'm not rushing to anything even though I'm having doubts and anxiety around this, so far there really is nothing to fit the bill, either from what I remember about her or from what I've seen so far. Giving it time.

As for wanting to fall out of love, it's... it's not that, per se, more that I'm worried now that I've realised I am falling in love. I don't even want to try controlling these things, as I don't see how it won't end up making things worse, just doing as much damage control and crisis management as possible. Plus it's about, like... her, y'know? Wouldn't really want to even if I could.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

She sought you out and is having dreams with you in them.

She feels the same.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't even dare assume this, I'll be very honest with you...

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

How do you expect her to make it more obvious? I think you're being a bit thick here.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

I dunno, sib, I'm the kind of person who likes specificity, because I'm capable of A LOT of random interpretation. And I really don't like to assume anything, even feels a bit... controlling, to be honest...

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you have that flutter then it’s worth pursuing imo

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

There's nothing I'd like more, believe me...

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 weeks ago

Why don't people provide basic information like gender any more?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, sorry, I'm M, she's F, mid-thirties.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] 474D@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Basically, if you've ever thought that you might be clueless about someone coming onto you, read this and feel better

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

You're not wrong, I have been known for this.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough!

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I dont know you so I'll keep my frankest description in a spoiler. But if I were your friend I'd be telling you gotta shoot your shot. Especially if you don't have resposibilities (ie. Children) that prevent both of you moving from being possible.

Sometimes things have to be sacrificed to gain happiness. Jobs and Houses can be replaced, and while thats certainly a long term problem, its not an immediate problem. Just plan some long weekends together.

Your description of a couple countries over makes me think European, if that is not the case and you are instead seperated by an ocean, I still think its worth a shot, it'll just have to be longer breaks than long weekends.

spoilerYou're clueless, noone messages a 20 year past crush out of the blue without aleast a smidge of the hope of making it work this time.

And a chicken-shit, what are you scared of? You say you're passionate and it takes a long time to fall out of love. Not getting it in the open will cause this to fester and grow, and you'll never get over it.

I think if you tell her you're into her and want to see her on your next vacation/long weekend she'll say yes.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're right, if things were to align, I wouldn't even have a problem moving there, to be honest. But that's a big "if."

As for "20 year past crush," that's her to me, but I don't think (or at least know) that I've been one to her. I did tell her I liked her way back when. She had a boyfriend at the time and I did my best to respect that and be her friend, so that was the first and last time I'd brought up feelings for her.

Edit: oh, and she already said she wants to see how her schedule looks for the upcoming few months, to try to squeeze in a couple of weeks in my city. I'd gladly reciprocate, I just don't want to rush things, for either of us, y'know?

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

If someone reaches out out of the blue, when you've previously told them you have interest in them, talks for a while, then says they'd like to come visit you, a relationship isn't out of the question. I'd not get too worked up until that first visit, but I'd definitely be open to see where it goes.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Oh, I am open! I just don't want to do the One-Sided Anguish Dance again. Especially not with her, because I fell hard for her last time...

I'm trying to be cautious while also being "all there" with her, because I know I'm a dumbass...

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