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[-] ulterno@programming.dev 8 points 2 hours ago

I really like it when company representatives openly boast their use of AI.

Makes it easy for me to put in a list of "Do not buy from" companies.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

He's explicitly selling AI based solutions, so luckily everyone sensible skips over that right away.

I can't imagine integrating AI to my codebases to a meaningful degree. I've worked mostly with health or financial syatems. Accuracy is of utmost importance. Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.

If that were to happen it won't be due to AI, it would be them using AI as a scapegoat.
Because they would definitely make sure to add a check to make sure I didn't get more than that.
Even if they replace you with AI, they will make sure to call you back and pay you 10x your time for that 1 thing.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

The company doing the payroll software isn't the company paying you though

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 hour ago

I was thinking about payment processors and banks.
They might debit more from the payer's account and credit less to the payee's account and that way at the end of the FY, they will have this happy coincidence of having higher than anticipated credit from the Reserve Bank.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

boasting about child labour...Sir are you by any chance from Florida?

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 minutes ago

Child labor? He's a senior in high school, it's common to have a job at that age.

[-] javiwhite@feddit.uk 13 points 6 hours ago

Sir I do believe the term you are looking for is "student af-uh-leets".

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

Reality: he got a coworker's kid to sit there for a photoshoot, for this post. That photo looks staged as fuck.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

Photo being staged is not a good enough way to prove that the subject is not what he is claimed to be.
The guy might be hunched forward while actually working and might not be using as many devices, but still might be vibe coding.

I remember having a staged photoshoot where I was asked to sit with another person next to me on my work computer, acting like I we were discussing something on screen. I ran some fancy stuff on screen for effect.
While actually working, I used to mostly talk directly while we both were sitting on our own systems, but that doesn't change the fact that I worked there and had made said fancy stuff before.

[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 21 points 7 hours ago

I kind of feel bad for the kid and hope he's actually learning something as he goes on.

If not he'll be a "AI-native" McDonalds employee after the bubble bursts.

[-] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 12 points 6 hours ago

"You're right, there is supposed to cheese on a cheeseburger. Please excuse my mistake“

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 6 hours ago

The CEO also looks underage, graduated last year after an internship with Microsoft. I can’t find any record of investment in the company or even any record of incorporation (to be fair I didn’t look very hard). The CEO and his whizz-kid AI coder may be the two smartest people on the planet - stranger things have happened - but statistically, and going by available data only, listening very much to a teenager (or thereabouts) hawking the skill of another teenager (confirmed) is a bit like watching two drunk kids in town thumping their chests.

For sure younger people will grow up to replace older people - such is the way of the world - and a salty coder is usually undertaken by fresh talent coming in with new skill sets (been on both sides of that), but right now, there’s nothing demanding attention here.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago

The more CEOs believe this, the more I will be able to demand in salary about 5 years from now.

[-] thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 12 hours ago

"This younger person is better than you and will take your job" oh boy like that's something new that ceos have never said before.

This is an attempt to manipulate workers into accepting lower wages for longer hours. That's what "AI" is to them.

[-] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 34 points 13 hours ago

......sure?

This kid doesn't know what he's writing or why, he's just coaxing cursor to vomit up commits and apparently that's their only metric for success.

I work with AI tools and with people who are absolute top tier Cursor users and their shit is always broken. They iterate fast but they absolutely do not fully understand what they're producing. It's great for rolling out flashy UI quickly (apparently the only thing investors care about), then you watch it all go to shit the second you push because every update breaks everything in horrifying ways. It's like watching the early days of enterprise C++/Java where everything was spaghetti, but 100x worse.

I don't think this paradigm of AI is likely to rival a decent human developer, there needs to be a fundamental change in how the models work and how we use them. What were doing now is hoping quantity is somehow going to replace quality.

[-] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

It's astounding how many lowlifes are using commit counts to measure impact. It's just throwing bisectability out the window and promoting stupid tactics for quick returns.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 61 points 16 hours ago

I fully believe this guy has no idea how horrific the things he's boasting about actually are.

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 43 points 15 hours ago

As is the usual on LinkedIn

[-] halfapage@lemmy.world 64 points 18 hours ago

Surely, Arno receives 10 times the salary, right?

[-] fargeol@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

He doesn't. And don't call me Shirley

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 44 points 17 hours ago

In “eXpOsUrE” and “MaRkEt ExPeRiEnCe”

100% this kid is getting just as fucked over as the rest of us, and because he’s young the corpos have a smidge more time to do so before he gets pissed off too.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 20 points 14 hours ago

I saw a question posted recently asking what age everyone was when they learned that they weren't going to get any rewards for working extra hard. I guess in some work it's harder to see than in others.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago
[-] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

An unpaid internist probably.

[-] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

He is getting paid $15.50/hr Which is the state minimum wage.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 45 points 17 hours ago

250k lines of Cursor code

Oh no...

[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago

I built a website that uses ChatGPT API for no particular reason whatsoever. Can I slap AI-native on my resume?

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

You can slap anything on your resume if you can explain it in the interview.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 30 points 17 hours ago

I hope all the CEOs like this guy go hard all in on AI and prove to the world that it’s a sound business decision.

And if they’re wrong, may they never complain about the hourly rates of contractors they have to call in to dig them out of the hole their AI dug for them.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

guess how much people are gonna charge them for debugging 250K lines of AI code or better yet probably writing everything from scratch

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 18 points 16 hours ago
[-] blackluster117@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Something something modern software resource utilization.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

need a put option stock market tutorial please

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

You just predict the exact date the company will fail, and buy the puts expiring the following month.

[-] perishthethought@piefed.social -4 points 13 hours ago

I'm 8-10 years from retirement and I'm fine with this. I always knew younger, better coders will come along. Anyone holding on to their 90s or 00s coding skills... Well... Good luck with that.

That, and this kid is still the very rare exception. I don't think he's representative of most 18 year olds.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

If it's even true, this is like a 9 yo kid hitting a flip switch dumping 30 tons of sand. But repeatedly all day long. Good luck cleaning it all up.

[-] Dhs92@piefed.social 4 points 13 hours ago

They're saying it's because he's using AI. They have 250k+ lines of cursor (LLM/AI) generated code in their codebase

[-] perishthethought@piefed.social -3 points 10 hours ago

Yep, understood. And I still don't think this is a common skill for most 18 year olds. But I'd like to know if this is more common than I realize.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In principle it shouldn't be very hard because premium versions of AI coding assistants keep regenerating the code until it compiles (without requiring anything after the initial prompt). After that it becomes a matter of checking whether the compiled code does what you want. If it does not you can tell it to fix those behaviours without knowing any/much coding at all. Though if you can't point it to the location of the code that causes the problem, it becomes a tug of war. This is because they can't really follow instructions like "keep the last change you made but do this" with %100 efficiency.

We shouldn't even begin to discuss stuff like good practices. If the person using the AI coding assistant isn't experienced in the field and doing stuff like coding databases, then you are pretty much at the mercy of AI. It may superficially seem to know what are good security practices but again if the person at the helm doesn't know them and or can't check them in the code, it is pretty much up to chance. See for instance:

https://www.veracode.com/blog/genai-code-security-report/

I feel like there might be a sweet spot for AI coding assistants but it is definitely not asking it to write a complete app or a website with a db from scratch. They should really tune it so that it can do the time consuming boiler plate stuff so people can actually focus on development, testing, and problem solving. Instead they try to develop it and sell it as an almost completely autonomous coder which seems like a futile effort for the current state of LLMs.

And precisely the approaches like "we don't need old styled senior coders anymore we can get anyone to produce code for cheaper" is what might fuck us. There will be a gap in the transfer of good practices and experience from the older generation to the younger which AI won't be able to fill. People will have to rediscover all of those again with probably quite a lot of pain for them and their users.

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