Les retraites en Europe : une géographie variable (www.areion24.news)

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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What model of financing do you have for state pensions in France? I live in Czechia and they get paid out of the national budget every year, so I thought it would be a higher percentage. But the govt wants to change it to a fund-based pension because apparently the current model os demographically unsustainable.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's part of the social security, so funded through Tax (well it's not called a tax, but in the end it's a government budget).

The main 'private counterpart' is people having extra real estate investment, like you buy a rental apartment in your 40's and 20 years latter it's paid and you get the rent as an supplemental income. To my understanding some real estate developer are borderline scammy with small individual investor

There is indeed some lobbying from insurance company to more "private pension fund" but it's not (yet) that popular/systematic (Many person with disposable incomes do have a pension fund, but usually a small amount)

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's part of the social security, so funded through Tax

Ahh I see. Do you think that's why Macron wants to change it? Because over here they're afraid that if it stays tax-based, there aren't going to be enough working age people to pay all the pensioners' pensions in a couple of decades

[-] Camus@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

France is also paid from national budget IIRC

[-] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is indeed a percentage representation, but the GDP of each country is different, so it's difficult to get the whole picture.

[-] Kabe@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

Un age legal descendu à 30 ans ne changerait pas grand chose mais l'augmenter de quelques année change beaucoup plus. Et c'est assez vrai que comparer cet age legal qui ne represente assez peu de chose dans l'ensemble de la retraite avec d'autres systeme d'autres pays, n'est pas vraiment utile hormis pour de la com

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