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Games on Linux are great now this is why I fully moved to Linux. Is the the work place Pc's market improving.

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[-] Flimbo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Personally for me its compatibility and support. Too many of programs and hardware I use daily aren't compatible or even have a Linux version or have little to no support officially or not.

[-] Flimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

For an example I tried to use Mint on my main rig but i was having trouble with my two monitor. I wanted my right monitor to be the main display but i kept wanting to use the left one, issue with how i wanted them to be arranged virtually and a ghost third monitor showing up and it all reverting settings or just breaking when a program open in full screen

[-] Flimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

OR when i messed with how drop down menus in settings and though steam was busted or something cuz i couldn't right click on my games in my library

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

In Enterprise: manageability. It's hard to overstate how powerful Windows Group Policy is. Being able to configure every single aspect of the OS and virtually all major applications, Microsoft or otherwise, using a single application that can apply rules dynamically based on user, device, user or device groups, time of day, location, battery level, form factor, etc, etc. Nothing on Linux comes close, especially when simplicity is a factor, and until it does most large organisations won't touch it with a barge pole.

[-] Wfh@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

A multi-billion dollars marketing budget, anti-competitive practices and confidential agreements, blacklisting hardware vendors if they dare proposing an alternative, and of course a legal department the size of a small city to sue all competition out of existence.

Oh wait that's Microsoft/Google/Apple/Meta/Amazon.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Be preinstalled on laptops/desktops.

everything else is ready unless you use niche software. Most people just use a browser and word or a pdf editor.

note the distro MUST be an immutable up to date kde flatpak using one for normal people, however

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

I was in agreement until you talk about flatpak...

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

actually, MUST NOT. The moment I see "this is immutable, all things are flatpack/snap/etc.", I am out, and not because of being a dev myself

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

I disagree on one thing. I think gnome is actually better for laptops and kde is better for desktops. A laptops with gnomes gesture navigation is just so much nicer to use with a trackpad. And with people already being used to phones i think gestures will come naturally to them.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah a lot of people will complain about their OS but never try installing another one.

ChromeOS is best example. It doesn't have half the functionality linux or windows has but nobody is installing another OS on their chromebook.

[-] leastaction@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 hours ago

Why would "Linux" want to get more users, whatever "Linux" is.

[-] haloduder@thelemmy.club 17 points 10 hours ago
[-] RavenofDespair@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

Unfortunately this is the case for a lot of the worlds problems

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 11 hours ago

People who convince themselves they "just aren't good with computers."

In the early 2000s, it was widely thought that everyone who grew up with them would be reasonably competent with them. We now have 20-30 year olds who are still stumped with basic computing concepts like how to reset a forgotten password. I literally ran into this a couple of months ago: Really? You haven't had to do this a dozen times in your life by now? How did you finish college (this person was highly educated)?

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

I had a similar problem with a couple of friends a few weeks back. They're a couple with a lot of debt, so they usually do everything they can to save money. Then the main water line started leaking.

I asked a few questions, and it turned out they could solder the pipes themselves and save hundreds on hiring a plumber. But the wife kept insisting that they were both too dumb to figure it out and by me saying it's easy to learn she just took it as me calling them stupid (which was a weird bit of gaslighting).

They didn't even look up a video on how to do it. I looked some up as a sanity check, and yeah it's fairly straightforward. Here's a really good video on it for those curious.

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

just took it as me calling them stupid (which was a weird bit of gaslighting).

Glad I'm not the only one who notices this. It's not everyone I meet, but I know quite a few people who double down on their inability to do simple tasks or learn a basic skill... I mostly wonder where it started for these people.

Similar situation, had a buddy recently throw out a pair of $300 headphones because the cable broke.

[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 12 hours ago

This most difficult one is probably the fact that 99% of people do not install their operating system.

The device they purchase needs to have a clean and elegant out of box experience like the Mac. Regular folk who are willing to stray from windows don't consider any computer that doesn't come off the shelf with sane defaults. Everything else is arcane to them.

We are not those people. I have to remind myself that not everyone likes to build their own systems.

I do have a friend who wants to buy a framework laptop with Fedora on it because that's what they use in the Laboratory he works in but he doesn't want to assemble it himself he just wants it to come like that.

I think we're getting there finally.

[-] oshu@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I feel like we've been having the same conversation for 20 years. Meanwhile the linux family of operating systems is now the most widely deployed in the world.

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Tell me windows market share again pls

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

27% with Android at 44.5%.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

This question comes up every other week. I reject the premise that "more users" is a commonly held objective.

For most linux / OSS projects the objective is to be the best the project can be. Having an active community is usually part of that but "more users" is a low priority.

[-] camelbeard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I remember when "the internet" was a bunch of older nerds and kids. My parents, aunts, uncles, etc didn't even know how to go online. It was great! More users made it much worse. Please don't become the mainstream OS.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Stigma.

A very large number of people believe Linux is difficult to get into. There are a number of publisher that somehow think Linux users are all hackers that will cheat in their online games. There are a not-so-insignificant number of Linux users who like Linux to remain niche, and small, and exclusive, and difficult to get into, and scoff at the idea of a "general user".

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 59 points 18 hours ago

I think part of the problem is that while Linux software is constantly getting more user friendly, the average user is getting less knowledgeable about computers at just as fast of a rate. People even understanding the concept of files and folders doesn't seem to be a given anymore.

[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 hours ago

Everything mainstream is a black box corporate ecosystem these days. Kids learn how to use specific programs and mobile apps, but don't learn anything about the OS or machine itself because everything is isolated and "just works".

It's a really weird spot to be in. We're used to the older generations being bad with tech, but now it's also the younger ones too.

[-] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

Part of the problem there is that we don’t teach people how to actually use computers, we teach how to use specific programs instead usually.

A few months back I saw a post somewhere about how “kids these days don’t know how to read an analog clock”. And it’s the exact same thing, you have to teach people how to use them. You don’t just innately know how to use these things we created.

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I grew up in the 2000s and got taught how to read an analog clock in like the first year of school.

I remember me teacher made a clock face on paper with the two arms pinned on. I brought up my parents had a clock with 'lines instead of numbers' and she taught everyone roman numerals on the spot.

What are teachers doing nowadays?

[-] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

A lot of teachers are really underpaid and have a lot of students to worry about. And that’s on top of parents wanting to meddle in their kids education and schools trying to cram more into the same amount of time. So it’s not always possible for teachers to be able to teach everything they need to, let alone other useful things to know.

And well what I said in my original comment about people just expecting others to know things without bothering to teach them. Years ago I was expected to know how to sign my name in cursive when the school district that I was in cut cursive when I was in kindergarten. Thankfully I had a teacher who actually taught me how to later on but otherwise I wouldn’t have known.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

When i sign my name i just write the first letter and do a fancy squiggle. Works everytime. lol

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 hours ago

Yes, exactly. Phones and tablets have resulted in intro to comp sci instructors having to teach young people how a filesystem works.

[-] mrductape@eviltoast.org 3 points 11 hours ago

What was that famous saying again? Something about developers making things idiot -proof and the universe producing bigger idiots?

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[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I think the gap between what the average Linux user thinks is ease of use and what the average non Linux user thinks is ease of use is probably much larger and many devs seem to understand.

I think it would be beneficial to have a completely idiot proof installer that doesn't ask you about partitions or formatting or basically anything just point it towards a drive and it will set up a default installation.

More GUI based means of doing basic stuff. A casual who wants to access some photos from his laptop does not want to figure out how to manually configure samba shares by editing config files in their terminal based text editor.

I think codecs are a much bigger pain in the ass than is ideal. As I understand that there are legal reasons for this but the first time some casual goes to play a video and gets an error message their first thought may not be "let me search Google and figure out what this error message means" their first thought maybe "Linux sucks and can't play videos".

The permission structure that makes Linux so secure makes it a little annoying for casuals. For example, you actively and intentionally go to the default software store, navigate to the updates tab, update a package you've already installed and clearly want, and do so from the official OS repository... This requires that you enter your password to protect you from what exactly? It's not a big deal it takes one second to type my password, but how would you explain this to a casual in a way that makes sense? Your OS is protecting you from potentially rogue acts of official patches to your default text editor.

I think the folder structures are pretty big challenge for converts. On Windows you can find most of the files associated with any given program in your program files folder. On Mac there's an applications folder. On Linux... it's somewhere, don't worry about it. That's not really a fixable one it just is what it is.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

I have a brother who is not into computers. But he has a shitty laptop (with only 3gb of ram) so windows stopped working on it (because Windows update). So I installed a Linux on it, and he is very happy with it.

He even managed to change the desktop by himself. Installing some stuff was not obvious (like making a scanner work), but I did it guiding him by phone and text.

Command line is in fact much easier in this case than any gui. In a gui, you must know it by heart to correctly guide the person. A command line you can fine tune it on your side, send it on discord, and he only has to copy/paste. That is much more powerful.

And the security is not less than downloading an executable on a dubious website.

It is true that specialist tend to overestimate the skill of unknowing people. But when it come to computer, people also forget that normal people always went for the help of specialist for their technical needs. Nothing changed.

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