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Proxmox 9 released (www.proxmox.com)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by beerclue@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Proxmox 9 was released, based on Debian 13 (Trixie), with some interesting new features.

Here are the highlights: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap#Proxmox_VE_9.0

Upgrade from 8 to 9 readme: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_8_to_9

Known issues & breaking changes: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap#9.0-known-issues

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[-] kebab@endlesstalk.org 15 points 4 months ago

The new mobile interface is lit 🔥. Finally usable

[-] billygoat@catata.fish 3 points 4 months ago

Fuck, I just left for a month away and I hate to do major upgrades when remote.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Probably for the best. Upgrades on the first release haven't had a stellar record

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago

Exactly, for example I missed the note that updating truenas to the latest version disables and hides all the virtual machines (theoretically they can get migrated to the new engine but it gave me some weird error. Luckily truenas can be downgraded easily.)

Now, 3 months after the First release of the update, those virtual machines aren't disabled and hidden anymore

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

core or scale? are they getting rid of core??

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 4 months ago

scale, they got rid of the kvm emulator in the last release and i was devastated to see all my VM gone. The "migration" consists in you migrate the disk image to the new directory, then you make a new VM... IF you knew that BEFORE the update and took note of all the settings because the old VM menu is gone!

but also it's clear than core is on life support

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

poop.

well my truenas is a vm on proxmox, i assume I'll figure something out when it is time lol

[-] Zanathos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

As of the last update released on August 1st, the "old" VMs are now visible again. The latest Electric Eel chain also merged all Core features into Scale, so the jump should not be as drastic any longer. I've always lived on Scale, but I assume you could try backing up your config and spinning up a new Scale VM and restoring the backup to it. No matter how you dice it though, it will be spicy!

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago

Not sure I want to check how far behind I am. How rough are these upgrades? I’ve got most things under Terraform and Ansible but am still procrastinating under the fear of losing a weekend regiggling things.

[-] phanto@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

I just did three nodes this evening from 8.4.1 to 9, no issues other than a bit of farting around with my sources.list files.

Not noticing anything significant, but I haven't tried the mobile interface yet.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I'd also like to know.

I built a new machine seceral months back with PVE and got the hang of it but it's been "set it and forget it" since then due to everything running smoothly. Now I don't remember half the things I learned and don't want to get in over my head running into issues during a major upgrade. I definitely do want the ability to expand my ZFS pool so I will need to bite the bullet eventually.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

I just did one of my two nodes. Easy upgrade, looks good so far.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

It will vary but for me it was smooth

[-] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Previous 3 major release upgrades I've done were smooth, ymmv

This is awesome, I am going to imediatly get a test cluster set up when I get to work. Snapshots with FC support was the only major thing (appart from Veeam support) holding us back from switching to Proxmox. The HA improvements also sound nice!

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Testing in production? Brave move mate. :)

[-] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

For beginners here: do not run apt upgrade!! Read the documentation on how to upgrade properly.

[-] beerclue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's always good to read the docs, but I often skip them myself :)

They have this nifty tool called pve8to9 that you could run before upgrading, to check if everything is healthy.

I have a 3 node cluster, so I usually migrate my VMs to a different node and do my maintenance then, with minimal risks.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 4 months ago

pve8to9 --full

[-] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago

ZFS now supports adding new devices to existing RAIDZ pools with minimal downtime.

Yes!!

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Edit2: the following is no longer true, so ignore it.

Why do you want this? There are very few valid use cases for it.

Edit: this is a serious question. Adding a member to a vdev does not automatically move any of the parity or data distribution off the old vdev. You'll not only have old data distributed on old vdev layout until you copy it back, but you'll also now have a mix of io requests for old and new vdev layout, which will kill performance.

Not to mention that the metadata is now stored for new layout, which means reads from the old layout will cause rw on both layouts. It's not actually something anyone should want, unless they are really, really stuck for expansion.

And we're talking about a hypervisor here, so performance is likely a factor.

Jim Salter did a couple writeups on this.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

As a person who just installed proxmox for the first time a couple of weeks ago, does this allow me to fix some of my mistakes and convert VMs to LXCs?

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

You could just start over if you dont have much invested into your current setup.

[-] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

As someone who also started proxmox fairly recently, I found that the community has these really cool scripts that you can use to get started. Obviously you're running bash scripts on your main node for some, so there are risks involved with that but in my experience it's been great.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yay, it only took 2 hours and the help of an llm since the upgrade corrupted my lvm metadata! Little bit of post cleanup and verifying everything works. Now I can go to sleep (it's 5am).

Wasn't that bad, but not exactly relaxing. And when my VMs threw a useless error ('can't start need manual fix') I might have slightly panicked...

[-] nevetsg@aussie.zone -1 points 4 months ago

Thanks for posting this and reminding me to never go back to Proxmox. My Proxmox server killed itself and all VM's twice before I moved onto HyperV.

[-] mio@lemmy.mio19.uk 0 points 4 months ago

I am telling myself that updating remotely is not a good idea

[-] beerclue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

My "servers" are headless, in the basement, so even if I'm home, it's still remote :D

[-] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

My work computer is Debian and I'm so looking forward to the upgrade. Just gotta contain myself for a free weeks until a 0.1 type update is released.

[-] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

There is no need ibthink. I did all 12 of my cluster at home plus all the work proxmox with no issues

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

It might be safer to wait, one of my IRL friends ran into an issue, and I saw some others post about it on the Proxmox forums: TASK ERROR: activating LV 'pve/data' failed: Check of pool pve/data failed (status:64). Manual repair required!

I think I didn't run into that error because I flattened my LVM kinda, but if I hadn't customized my setup maybe I would have run into that too.

[-] ssdfsdf3488sd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Its in the release upgrade notes. There isvone command to run if you are doing lvm. All my stuff is zfs or ceph so i never ran into it

[-] mio@lemmy.mio19.uk -1 points 4 months ago

I am telling myself that updating remotely is not a good idea

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