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[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Ads when you're driving, features you've paid for locked behind a paywall and overpriced repairs.. the future is here.

Hope suburu doesn't end up doing this, just bought one.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

My wife's 2017 Volkswagen, with only 160,000 very gentle km on it (100,000 miles) suddenly had a warning light come on. It seems that the sensor on the turbo charger had gone bad, but the only way to fix it is to replace the entire turbocharger, close to $5,000.

From what we have read, Volkswagens of this age start to have large numbers of very expensive repairs. Lesson learned, she got rid of the Volkswagen and bought a hyundai.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That’s bullshit. That vintage of VW has like two sensors on the turbo. They’re easy to get to and cost like $100 tops.

And $5,000 to replace a turbo is nuts. A new turbo can be around $1,500 but it’s less than six or eight hours of labor for a good mechanic.

I’m an idiot code monkey and I replaced mine in my garage in a weekend.

[-] BogusCabbage@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

+1 to this. $5k is BS, Especially if we're talking USD, but this also sounds like classic VW making a simple repair a massive job, replacing unnecessary parts, charging exorbitant prices and throwing away perfectly good components that end up in landfill, and best part is in the end it probably wasn't even what they diagnosed to actually be the cause of the problem, dealerships love to fix symptoms, not causes. A good independent Euro specialist would have loved that job.

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I got news for you, I purchased a used Hyundai 2019 that has turbo, and the one thing wrong with it was the turbo. My father's a mechanic, so he said he would put it in, but I believe the cost for the part was around $500. Idk what a dealer would charge. He then told me that turbos, on average, only last about 100k anyway, so it's definitely a part that will most likely need replacing more than most sadly. Then, a month later, the entire car died, and the engine was bad... this was earlier this year, and my father again said he would do it, but a new engine takes time, which he doesn't have, so now I've been car less for 4 months, yay!

This new car had 93k on it. My last car (Nissan Sentra) lasted 19 years and 250k on it and only traded it in because we were nervous it could go at any time. Thanks for the great car, Hyundai!

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well, I was planning on buying the new electric van they have, but this article has changed my mind. Same reason I won’t buy a Tesla or any other company that hides features of a fully purchased car behind a paywall. Fuck that mess and I will never support it.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I don’t know why they made a minivan with only two cup holders.

[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

My husband and I had looked at VW as one of their cars matched our criteria. When we went to look at it I was like "what do you mean this car only has 1 cup holder?!?!" Like that wasn't even on our list of needs to consider because... You know... I assumed every car had at least 2.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, honestly I will never own a German car again. They are way over engineered while also lacking the creature comforts i expect as an American. My 20 year old beetle has 2 cup holders, but they are underneath the radio and can't hold anything wider than a soda can, and only have about 8 inches of clearance.

[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago

Europoor here, we never used the cup holder for holding cups in my life time.

The only acceptable usage was throwing coins that you don’t know where to put, usually for paying the motorway tolls in France (but this has also disappeared in favor of cards).

But on the same cultural differences, I bet I’ve seen the cigarette lighter and ashtray being more used than you had (during the 80 and 90s when cars still had them).

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"You wouldn't download a car"

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You wouldn't own a car you purchased

[-] elucubra@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

I own a 26 year old skoda 1.9 TDI 110 HP Without touching any hardware it can be remmaped to 140 hp, which is a setting used in an Audi A4 from that era. Replacing a couple of things, like injectors turbo and intercooler, it can go to 180-190, which was also offered for the same engine. I'm happy with the 110hp, the car drives fine, and the engine is relaxed, wich has helped its longevity

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’ve got a ten year old GTI and the amount of power you can get out of these engines with really simple, cheap mods is crazy.

[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

201 to 228 hp is just like an idiot tax. But of course it’s only a start. If customers accept it, they will put more and more behind a subscription.

[-] marius@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

Don't Manufacturers do this for years? My 2005 Ford was available with 60 and 70HP and those engines were basically identical

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Buying a different model and paying a subscription to use the hardware you purchased are completely different things.

[-] marius@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

I get the problem with the subscription. But, as I said, back in the days there were also cars with basically the same hardware, but different amounts of power

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

We'll say it again: They had different amounts of power because it wasn't the same hardware.

[-] rzadkie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Chip tuning is a way to have slightly different performance from the factory settings, but they didn't sell different models where the only difference was chip tuning. Chip tuning is modifying the purchased car, like changing the rims or adding a different air intake.

This is completely different because they made it for 228 HP and down tuned it so they could charge a subscription to remotely apply the tuning the car was designed for. This is charging money to undo an electronic limiter they added pureky to gouge customers.

[-] marius@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

but they didn't sell different models where the only difference was chip tuning.

You sure?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I admit not looking into it in the last few years, but since chip tuning has been around since the early days of computer chips in cars, and I'm talking about cars released over several decades. This article presents it as something new, so I didn't take the time to double check recent history.

Do you have examples of paying more at the point of sale or as a subscription for only tuning that are more than a few years old?

Tesla doesn't really count since they fuck around with their software constantly.

[-] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

That is when someone changes the operating parameters of the engine.

From the factory the air/fuel mixture, turbo boost maximum, shift points, shift duration, and many others are configured to maximize longevity, fuel economy and comfort.

When someone changes those values, they are choosing to trade any one of the previous things for more power. Usually durability is the biggest trade off. You generate more heat, use more fuel and wear components out more rapidly.

Its like adjusting the pressure regulator on your house water main. Same hardware, but now you can dial up the water pressure to max. You will also probably start seeing more leaks at faucets, water heater and appliances that must now sustain that higher pressure.

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