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[-] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 90 points 9 months ago

This list is... fine, but unfortunately missing a number of good FOSS alternatives. Still, it's good info for most of these categories.

Having said that, it's eternally frustrating that infographics like these so often don't recommend actual alternatives for YouTube specifically. It's always just "keep using YouTube, but with these apps instead" which, that's "fine", but not exactly degoogling. It's not even really a step towards degoogling, because you're still tied to watching content from Google, so when that frontend stops functioning, you're highly tempted to go back to using Google's YouTube apps.

[-] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 51 points 9 months ago

Also Aurora store. It's just a front-end to play store. One should also ditch all chromium based browsers for couple of reasons

  1. Chromium is fully controlled by google
  2. It enforces mono-culture in web browsers (it's the internet explorer of $currentYear).
[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 9 months ago

It gets people out the door. They can refine later.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

I feel like they did that with Youtube because there really aren't any relevant alternatives. I mean there are alternatives but they're really pretty small and niche so far.

[-] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

You're right, but also those alternatives will remain small and niche for longer the more people are not being directed to them as real alternatives.

There are creators slowly migrating their content to Peertube, for example. It would be nice for lists like this to be recommending that alternative more so those creators see interest rising there.

[-] dRLY@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

GrayJay is pretty good option, it does have YT but also has plug-ins for other services. So it could be good for getting results if searching for something that will show up in YT that the creator also uploaded to other sites, while still having the option to watch if not. Also has built-in support for SponsorBlock and DeArrow for the things that are only on YT (and can opt to sign into or stay signed out of YT account). PeerTube is still a mess though. Not able (or at least I don't know how) to pick your instance to sign into and doesn't seem to allow for adding to the pool of peers to help upload while watching. But I don't think even the phone apps that specifically are for PT do that/have the option. Would be nice to be able to do that if on WiFi at least.

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[-] ddplf@szmer.info 81 points 9 months ago

Recommending Brave or any other Chromium browser as an alternative for Chrome is a big no no for me.

Also, don't use Organic Maps, use CoMaps

[-] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

What’s the issue with OrganicMaps?

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 42 points 9 months ago

Most of the community contributors forked it as CoMaps recently. You can read why they started this project here.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was not aware of this shit. Sneaky little fucks. I've been using OSMAnd~ for over 3 years now. Is this being affected as well? I did install comaps a few days ago to test it (I'm liking it so far). Any suggestions?

[-] lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago

No, osmand is not affected, it is not related with organic in anyway.

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[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 21 points 9 months ago

The TL;DR is that while organic maps is open source the people maintaining it are running it as a for profit company.

Comaps is a fork that insists on being a nonprofit

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

stop. with. the. brave. bullshit.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Brave is a cult.

Brave is specifically a crypto based advertising company cult.

Crypto bros reskinned chrome, added some built in plugins, added their own crypto advertising tokens, and went all queerphobic.

Somehow a few people decided to build their identity around this. Anytime your bring up tech with them they try to sneak their cult-y Brave stuff in. It’s worse than MLM people at this point.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

It was exposed so soon after it got popular, years ago, but people still act like it's so private and secure in the year of our lord 2025. I'm inclined to believe it's astroturfed.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Makes sense. Like only paid employees or dedicated cult members would produce such a recommendation chart. Brave Translate but no DeepL? Brave Talk but no Jitsi? Crazy.

Firefox has built in LOCAL translation but no mention of that. 🤷‍♀️

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 9 months ago

It seriously is. I see people on Privacy Guides and reddit that are adamant that it's amazing, which can be easily tested to not be the case.

Even when stripped down and hardened, Brave isn't magic, and reveals your canvas fingerprint data.

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[-] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Couple of additions:

  • translate -> deepL (AI based with a free tier (no account required)), or for websites FireFox has a builtin offline translation tool
  • drive -> Filen (Zero knowledge, E2EE)
  • search -> Kagi (paid), or one of the listed

Also check the Fossify apps.

[-] suspicious_hyperlink@lemmy.today 28 points 9 months ago

How can you forget DeepL at such a list? It’s Germany-based and actually provides better translations than Google Translate

[-] Mniot@programming.dev 11 points 9 months ago

DeepL is fantastic. Not only are the translations better, I find the UI better also.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think the main downside for me is the lack of Asian languages other than basic Chinese (text-only, no voice). And then, no ~~Japanese~~, Vietnamese, Thai, Tagalog... And a smaller feature I also feel it misses is offline translations.

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[-] c0dezer0@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago

The main reason why people use google maps is the fact it has reviews included.

Other navigation apps don't offer this convenient feature.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 9 months ago

The open/close times, photos, and real-time crowd report in Google Maps make it the hardest Google service to completely replace.

[-] vatlark@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

The open times are easy to contribute with the StreetComplete app.

OSMand has a Street View type of thing called Mapillary.

Yeah traffic seems like it's going to be tricky for any open source project. CoMaps claims they are working on it.

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

i can see open/close times on CoMaps too

i guess it's available on all osm apps

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 9 months ago

It has a field for it, but I've found it to be missing the data for a lot of places compared to Google. This probably varies by city so maybe it's just bad luck for me.

[-] DreasNil@feddit.nu 5 points 9 months ago

I try to update this in OSM every time I find information missing. Its like playing pokemon - gotta catch them all! ;)

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[-] weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemmy.pt 13 points 9 months ago

Didn't think I'd see a degoogling list without DeepL, for translations. That's definitely a choice.

[-] alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 months ago

I personally recommend kagi instead of Google search. I've tried most of the ones in this list and kagi gives the best results, and consistently too.

[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Same, I know people are skeptical about paying for search, but you pay one way or the other for all searches. Being able to tweak my own page to rank to hide sites that are trash is pretty nice.

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[-] brianary@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

Kagi also supports bangs, custom bangs, quick bangs, and fine style control.

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[-] Una@europe.pub 11 points 9 months ago

Great recommendations, for YouTube I recommend taking a look at peertube and also, while this is not really a YouTube alternative, take a look at fmhy.net they have many links for tv shows, anime, movies, books, educational videos, documentaries, etc... Great tool :3

[-] M137@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

How is it that all these lists are always kinda bad? They always miss some obvious good alternatives or have ones that shouldn't be there. I've seen so many posted and not a single one has been without issues. And these are not subjective things I'm referencing, I'd have no issue with that, they just always seem to be made by someone who has very shallow and uninformed knowledge about the alternatives. My main issue here is Kagi missing from search, and Proton and Brave being part of any of the recommendations.

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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Brave browser is chromium based, don't know about their translator though. Deepl is by far the better option.

Most browsers are chromium, like Vivaldi (the one I use and love).

I can highly recommend Proton password manager and 2fa app, which are not listed here. When you pay for their service, you have mail, drive, vpn, password manager, 2fa and it works great. Extra encryption, extra privacy.

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[-] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 10 points 9 months ago

Tuta even recommends some Proton services, Tuta is truly based!

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

They missed to mention Jitsi Meet, posteo.de, Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP (for an example Snikket). But other than that, really good list! 😃

And yes, you can use others servers for Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP/Snikket. No need for self-hosting your own.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

I'll be very happy when a google wallet alternative is made (don't think it's really possible right now!?).

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[-] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Isn't Aurora just a frontend to google play store? Just use F-droid

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago

They're different things, Aurora is a privacy respecting alternative to the play store app. F-Droid is it's own thing but it's library does have some overlap.

Best practice is to get both, and check F-Droir first.

[-] rirus@feddit.org 8 points 9 months ago

Mozilla translate is offline on your device: about:translations#src=detect

Instead of google drive you could use cryptpad

I like droidify more then the fdroid client

CalyxOS is no more

[-] Sniatch@feddit.org 7 points 9 months ago

Why is Filen not listed as an alternative for Google Drive? Filen is also a german company.

[-] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 9 months ago

Jitsi is a great open source alternative to Google Meet and Zoom etc

[-] DampSquid@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago

What browser are y'all using on Android?

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I started using Tuta recently. I created some aliases. Someone can email be at one of my aliases but if I reply to them then the other person sees my alias as well as my original email address, which kinda defeats the purpose. Anybody know why that is?

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