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Tuta posted a #deGoogle ing guide.
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stop. with. the. brave. bullshit.
Brave is a cult.
Brave is specifically a crypto based advertising company cult.
Crypto bros reskinned chrome, added some built in plugins, added their own crypto advertising tokens, and went all queerphobic.
Somehow a few people decided to build their identity around this. Anytime your bring up tech with them they try to sneak their cult-y Brave stuff in. It’s worse than MLM people at this point.
It was exposed so soon after it got popular, years ago, but people still act like it's so private and secure in the year of our lord 2025. I'm inclined to believe it's astroturfed.
Makes sense. Like only paid employees or dedicated cult members would produce such a recommendation chart. Brave Translate but no DeepL? Brave Talk but no Jitsi? Crazy.
Firefox has built in LOCAL translation but no mention of that. 🤷♀️
It seriously is. I see people on Privacy Guides and reddit that are adamant that it's amazing, which can be easily tested to not be the case.
Even when stripped down and hardened, Brave isn't magic, and reveals your canvas fingerprint data.
I've checked once on the fingerprint testing website how my firefox scores and brave just out the box scored way better. I have been considering to move to brave since then. Temporarily I settled on using firefox for casual web browsing and mullvad for shopping.
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I never understood it either. Like vanilla FF with some tweaks made it just as good (if not better) than Brave out of the box. We have Librewolf and Arkenfox too. Mull existed for Android, now we have Fennec and IronFox. I get that about:config can suck sometimes (I'm in a fight with it every month on IronFox 😅), but like follow a guide or two and you'll have Brave without the crypto and blatantly allowing "whitelisted" sites to stalk you.
It's just unnecessary at this point...
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Didn't think I'd see a degoogling list without DeepL, for translations. That's definitely a choice.
How can you forget DeepL at such a list? It’s Germany-based and actually provides better translations than Google Translate
DeepL is fantastic. Not only are the translations better, I find the UI better also.
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This list is... fine, but unfortunately missing a number of good FOSS alternatives. Still, it's good info for most of these categories.
Having said that, it's eternally frustrating that infographics like these so often don't recommend actual alternatives for YouTube specifically. It's always just "keep using YouTube, but with these apps instead" which, that's "fine", but not exactly degoogling. It's not even really a step towards degoogling, because you're still tied to watching content from Google, so when that frontend stops functioning, you're highly tempted to go back to using Google's YouTube apps.
Also Aurora store. It's just a front-end to play store. One should also ditch all chromium based browsers for couple of reasons
- Chromium is fully controlled by google
- It enforces mono-culture in web browsers (it's the internet explorer of $currentYear).
I feel like they did that with Youtube because there really aren't any relevant alternatives. I mean there are alternatives but they're really pretty small and niche so far.
You're right, but also those alternatives will remain small and niche for longer the more people are not being directed to them as real alternatives.
There are creators slowly migrating their content to Peertube, for example. It would be nice for lists like this to be recommending that alternative more so those creators see interest rising there.
GrayJay is pretty good option, it does have YT but also has plug-ins for other services. So it could be good for getting results if searching for something that will show up in YT that the creator also uploaded to other sites, while still having the option to watch if not. Also has built-in support for SponsorBlock and DeArrow for the things that are only on YT (and can opt to sign into or stay signed out of YT account). PeerTube is still a mess though. Not able (or at least I don't know how) to pick your instance to sign into and doesn't seem to allow for adding to the pool of peers to help upload while watching. But I don't think even the phone apps that specifically are for PT do that/have the option. Would be nice to be able to do that if on WiFi at least.
It gets people out the door. They can refine later.
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Recommending Brave or any other Chromium browser as an alternative for Chrome is a big no no for me.
Also, don't use Organic Maps, use CoMaps
What’s the issue with OrganicMaps?
Most of the community contributors forked it as CoMaps recently. You can read why they started this project here.
Damn, so one of the founders still has closed source code running on Organic Maps. Unbelievable.
I'll be switching immediately. Thanks for sharing.
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The TL;DR is that while organic maps is open source the people maintaining it are running it as a for profit company.
Comaps is a fork that insists on being a nonprofit
Isn't Aurora just a frontend to google play store? Just use F-droid
They're different things, Aurora is a privacy respecting alternative to the play store app. F-Droid is it's own thing but it's library does have some overlap.
Best practice is to get both, and check F-Droir first.
So this is an add for tuta?
No.
Brave browser is chromium based, don't know about their translator though. Deepl is by far the better option.
Most browsers are chromium, like Vivaldi (the one I use and love).
I can highly recommend Proton password manager and 2fa app, which are not listed here. When you pay for their service, you have mail, drive, vpn, password manager, 2fa and it works great. Extra encryption, extra privacy.
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Mozilla translate is offline on your device: about:translations#src=detect
Instead of google drive you could use cryptpad
I like droidify more then the fdroid client
CalyxOS is no more
It's always great to see these guides. I have some de-googling yet to do, but I think my project this upcoming winter might be a larger general de-commercialization and increasing FOSSification than just a google-focused thing.
I like Molly (Signal fork) and SimpleX for chat.
Why is Filen not listed as an alternative for Google Drive? Filen is also a german company.
Couple of additions:
- translate -> deepL (AI based with a free tier (no account required)), or for websites FireFox has a builtin offline translation tool
- drive -> Filen (Zero knowledge, E2EE)
- search -> Kagi (paid), or one of the listed
Also check the Fossify apps.
Jitsi is a great open source alternative to Google Meet and Zoom etc
Tuta even recommends some Proton services, Tuta is truly based!
Was on graphene, but the missing payment app really was a breaker for me.
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They missed to mention Jitsi Meet, posteo.de, Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP (for an example Snikket). But other than that, really good list! 😃
And yes, you can use others servers for Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP/Snikket. No need for self-hosting your own.
I'll be very happy when a google wallet alternative is made (don't think it's really possible right now!?).
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Notesnook is pakistan based company
Are you sure? Their website says all their servers and data are in Germany. Also, how does it matter as long as the source code is open and transparent?
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