Fun fact: back in Roman times, it was manly to fuck a twink. Being fucked by another man made you a woman (in their eyes, women were inferior in every aspect). I suppose something similar happened in Greece for a good while
It was normal for men to take teenage boys, teach them up, and also use them for sexual gratification. Everyone was okay with it, but with 1 big stipulation: you get off by sliding your penis between the thighs to climax, and do not penetrate the young boy anally. That was considered "crossing the line" & perverting him as a man.
I think this was common Greek practice, not Roman.
There is a weird bias against bisexual men in media. Someone I knew even once said she didn't believe bisexual men existed, all men are either straight or gay. For me self identification is important. If someone tells me they're straight but I believe they're bisexual, I'm going to call them straight.
Oh I've heard the "bisexual men don't exist" thing a million times, often from gay men.
I like to shut the conversation down by waving around the statistic that for every gay man, there are 3 bisexual men.
Jim Jeffries talked about this topic in his new Netflix special that came out last week.
New Jim Jeffries special? Gonna have to check this out.
The second half is a little rough, but the first half is fantastic IMO
damn they're still making Netflix specials?
I am a straight white man and I can’t even weigh in on this issue because if I defend the bi ppl ill get a stigma attached to me
If just second-hand stigma is enough for you to change your behavior, imagine how much worse it is for someone who is actually bi
You can also be brave and not give a fuck how anybody that would think less of you for being compassionate might stigmatize you. But this is the internet and I have no context.
The people attaching stigmas to you aren't worth worrying about.
Speaking from the perspective of a straight white guy who was heavily involved in the GSA at school.
This seems like a non-issue, just personal anxiety.
if I defend the bi ppl ill get a stigma attached to me
By whom?
Oh fuck off with that.
I've seen so many cases of staunch progressive groups weaponize a guys sexuality as soon as they have a falling out with him. Its like these people never believed what they were saying. People are so spineless and have no morals.
In my older age I've come to the realization that a lot of people join movements just to belong, not because they actually hold the conviction. I think in fact there are people who aren't capable of even having a conviction, just bouncing between whatever expressive habits are most convenient socially
You see it with things like politics and religion too
Absolutely. There are also people who are just contrarians and will define their current views as the opposite of what's currently accepted.
My favourite is the ones who scream about slut shaming then use "virgin" as an insult.
Although that seems to have fallen out of fashion lately.
That specific insult I mean, not hypocrisy.
With leftists and progressives the louder they are about their beliefs and virtues the less they actually follow those through. Just like with religious people, it’s just virtue signaling.
People like this are the progressive version of evangelicals. And like with Christianity they don't get called out enough to keep it from becoming a major problem.
Villainizing male sexuality is why we have a whole new generation boys heading into alt right circles and so far the response has been a variant of telling them to 'man up.' And its going to get a lot worse before it gets even a little better.
i do wild shit to make the girls im dating lose attraction for me all the time. burping really loud constantly, saying the word "COCKS" when i sneeze, crying about wall-e, shitting with the door open. who cares?
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