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4 very large cores and 4 large cores
Of course it will be faster if they replace the efficiency cores with high performance ones.
There's a good chance Qualcomm will beat it on efficiency.
This will probably still be among the most efficient SOC's when it comes out. The new designs may have some improvements, and I'm guessing this is 3nm instead of 4 which was the best previously available.
It's cool that we have an alternative to Qualcomm for high performance on Android.
Edit:
https://www.techadvisor.com/article/1935476/mediatek-dimensity-9300.html
It should also be noted that Arm claims the X4 has 40% better power efficiency than the previous generation
I doubt efficiency will be much of a problem for the Mediatek Dimensity 9300. This is a beast!
Even with higher efficiency than last year, could it match the efficiency of a small core when doing next to nothing while the phone is idle? Feel like they should've included at least a single small core for that purpose
Typical decent phones can run for 4-5 days on idle, so I don't think that will be a problem.
Typical decent phones also have small cores.
Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it's important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it's 4 days instead of 5?
The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.
Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it’s important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it’s 4 days instead of 5?
How do you arrive at 4 days vs. 5? Do you have power draw numbers in idle state for the different CPUs? I wasn't able to find much, though the manual for the ARM low-power cores suggests a lot of optimizations that aren't available on the bigger cores.
The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.
Maybe for you, but not for everyone else.
Why don't you go complain about the Tensor chips somewhere?
They are poor to average performers with tiny cores, the Pixel 7A only has 3 days battery life.
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_7a-12170.php
Did you make any posts at least questioning whether that is better with the new Tensor G3?
What are you talking about? You made a weird claim to which I responded. Why are you asking me if I question some other chip?
My claim is not weird, the data we have supports it.
Can you show me the data you have on the power draw of this CPU in idle mode compared to CPUs with small cores? I'd love to see it, but so far you've linked info about tensor chips?
Performance is important, but efficiency is where it's at!
Arm claims the X4 has 40% better power efficiency than the previous generation.
So it will be more efficient than anything from previous generations.
Definitely interested to see how this does in the real world.
This is a huge step up from the Dimensity 9200 series, which only had 1 Cortex-X3 core. The remaining cores are improved too, with the smaller Cortex-A510 completely gone, so it's 4 Cortex-X4 and 4 Cortex-A720, up from 1 Cortex X3 + 3 Cortex A715 +4 A510.
The clock is not really that big an improvement, as the 9200+ had the Cortex-X3 running at 3.35 GHz. So that's actually reduced a little bit for the Cortex-X4 at 3.25 GHz on the 9300, but of course 4 instead of 1 will make it way faster, and any IPC improvement will help too.
This is very exciting news, it's very impressive how far Mediatek has come, from being just a maker of cheap components. An image they still have against them to some degree I think. But now they are at the cutting edge, making bleeding edge SOC's.
it’s very impressive how far Mediatek has come, from being just a maker of cheap components. An image they still have against them to some degree I think. But now they are at the cutting edge, making bleeding edge SOC’s.
Bleeding edge is cutting edge gone wrong.
Is Mediatek's phone WiFi as shit as their notebook WiFi (google for "mediatek wifi disconnecting" in case you're wondering)? I wouldn't want a phone with a SoC by a company that's incompetent in keeping WiFi up, no matter how fast the CPU is.
Plus almost for all media devices, there is really lack of custom ROMs.
Hope to see them in tablets and laptops soon, I won't ever understand who really needs ultra fast dumb phones.
Brilliant. Competition is good for everyone
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
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