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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I've got a friend trying to move from the United States to England to escape our current shit show, and I've been telling him that England tends to do what America does, just with a posh accent to give it an air of legitimacy.

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

At this point, leaving England for America is the saner choice...

I mean unless you're brown, then ICE will just lock you away if you try

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Nowhere is truly safe at this point. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago

I'm currently working out moving to Jamaica. Got a friend there to help, but he says it ain't all sunshine and cheap pot like the movies.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I'm not LGBT but I usually use that as a guideline of "is this a good place to be?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Jamaica

And its not looking great.

Pick somewhere else.

[-] SloppyJoe@toast.ooo 5 points 4 months ago

Super simple and smart way to sort places that care about human rights. Thanks for sharing.

[-] huppakee@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

If you think they do it with a posh accent you've not been to England lol

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm mainly thinking of Tony Blair making the same case for invading Iraq that George W. Bush was, just with the accent.

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 months ago

I'm mainly thinking of marshmallows.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

It’s already working. Due to the terrorism claims, each of these arrests requires a special review, and the system is being overwhelmed. Get a few more hundred or thousands of people to get an arrest for this, and the whole government scheme will have to be abandoned, because there will be no practical way for system to follow the required procedures for each case.

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Fascists get pretty clever at solving that problem. They create these camps where they can just concentrate them in one place.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

See how that worked out for USA, when push came to shove - the law was abandoned.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, and that will be an important lesson to people. Then we can move to the next step to topple the capitalists.

[-] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago
[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

About five minutes later, the arresting officer approached him again. “He said: ‘I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news.’ I said: ‘What’s the good news?’ He said: ‘I’m de-arresting you.’

“And I said: ‘What’s the bad news?’ He said: ‘It’s going to be really embarrassing for me.’ And then I walked free, while all the real heroes are the people that are actually getting arrested.”

The officer seems to understand his mistake at least

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The poor copper lost all that time arresting a guy with Plasticine Action on his t-shirt only to have to de-arrest him when he could've been arresting an old lady with the words "Palestine Action" written down on a piece of paper for her to be prosecuted and maybe even get a jail sentence.

That mistake was making it hard for him to make his quota of arrests for that week, the poor bloke.

[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is why I always imagine it'd be funny to ask a cop "so how many murders got solved this week?" whenever they're wasting time on mundane shit.

I've never had an interaction with a cop where they didn't make it unnecessarily intense.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Their job is not to solve crimes, their job is to get people convicted, the subtle difference being that they'll turn non-crimes into crimes (for example, they'll chose to legally interpret things which can go both ways as crimes which require prosecution, which is why one often sees kids criminalized for childish bullshit) and it doesn't matter if the person convicted is innocent, all that matters is that somebody got convicted (so, for example, they won't try and find exonerating evidence).

This partly explains their tendency to take an adversarial posture towards people who aren't from their group, also partly explained because that posture itself indirectly feeds back on them (people are weary of them because of how act towards the general public, which in turn makes them feel apart and suspicious hence they behave even more so) and partly because they do tend to get exposed far more than most people to the seedy side of humanity all with a judgemental mindset and an aim to see crimes, so even a lot of the stuff they see which most people think is just silly fun (say, most drunkenness), they'll see as crimes.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Police solve something like less than 2% of reported crimes.

Even a libertarian can see this is fucking stupid, imagine a restaurant that gets 2% of its orders correct and served in a timely manner.

Police do not primarily exist to solve crimes.

They primarily exist as a goon/thug class to protect property and capital, all other behaviors and effects are ancillary.

If Police wanted to actually lessen crime, they'd either attack its root causes and use significant parts of their budgets to fund affordable housing and public schools, or massively reorient toward pursuing white collar crime, which is often of such a huge financial scale that it basically directly impoverishes society at a large scale.

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

You have the right to free speech...as long as... you're not dumb enough to actually try it.

[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

In what other profession are you allowed to just stand there in public with a constant hand on someone?

[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Who is Donald Trump on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, Alex.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I mean.. The act of not allowing you to leave is the problem here not the fact he is maintaining contact with his forearm.

[-] ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Pardon my ignorance, but is wearing a shirt with the word Palestine on it and arrestable offense in England?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago

Palestine Action yes. An activism organization called Palestine Action was classified as a terrorist organization a few weeks ago by the UK government.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Y'all seem to have a lot going on across the pond, what with "who's a terrorist," or "is this dystopian?"

Have y'all considered electing a terrorist leader so that you instantly know the answers to those questions?

We are all domestic terrorists

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, the accelerationist approach. Fight fire with fire, etc. Let's see how it pans out!

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[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure that's Scotland, not England (Glasgow to be specific). But yeah, the British government decided carrying a Palestine Action sign was basically terrorism.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Why do these deep-fried rectums need to be in quasi-military garb and high-visibility vests?

[-] Knightfox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm all for saying fuck the police, but what are you talking about with quasi-military garb and why are you bashing them for wearing high-vis vests?

These look like the worst equipped cops I've ever seen. I'm from the USA and I've seen Italian Police look harder than these guys, they at least had cars and sub-machine guns. These guys have boots, handcuffs, pepper spray, a fucking belt mounted medkit, a collapsible billy club, a baseball cap, cheap-ass-commercial-laundry-uniform-contract cargo pants, a black t-shirt, and a stab vest. The pigs don't even have guns and they are wearing "please-don't-run-me-over" safety vests.

The guys on the street have the right reaction, there's obviously no threat here.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Pal,It'sTime ~for~ Action

Oh sorry didn't see you there officer, I was just saying its time for my #sick dance 🕺 moves, is dancing a crime, officer? 😏

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Picture yourself in a train in a station

With Palestine porters with looking glass ties

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