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submitted 2 weeks ago by Stamau123@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35098148

At least 25 countries have decided to suspend package deliveries to the United States, as concern grows over the impact of U.S. President Donald Trump’s looming tariffs, a UN body said Tuesday.

The Trump administration said late last month that it will abolish a tax exemption on small packages entering the United States from August 29.

The move has sparked a flurry of announcements from postal services, including in France, Britain, Germany, Italy, India, Australia and Japan, that most U.S.-bound packages would no longer be accepted.

The United Nations’ Universal Postal Union said it had already been advised by 25 member countries that their postal operators “have suspended their outbound postal services to the U.S., citing uncertainties specifically related to transit services”.

It said the suspensions will remain in place until there is more clarity on how U.S. authorities plan to implement the announced measures.

The UPU did not provide a list of postal services it had heard from.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 weeks ago

So the reason is not that they would need to pay more and don't want to, but that nobody knows who to pay, what to pay, and how to pay. There is literally no way to send a package to the US today and know how much it will cost.

So this is not Trump being aggressive in negotiation, but just being incompetent.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

He is actually extremely competent, if the goal is to destroy US' status as a superpower.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

That would explain why he had to check in with his FSB handler in Alaska last week.

[-] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my God trump thinks he's trading Alaska for Greenland. It just clicked.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

He thrives off making everybody on edge with uncertainty, that's why he won't tell us WHEN he intends to invade Chicago and other big cities

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump wants IOSS, just implemented in a week, somehow by someone else than America themselves, and made immediately mandatory.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

And I want a Pilatus PC-12 for free with no maintenance costs, but life is more complicated than that.

[-] Sailor88@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

This is not true. Ship with DHL, FedEx, or UPS.

[-] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

...and pay a random amount of customs fees. Can be done, but can get quite crazy. It's better to let the few big guys handle those shipments for now than 30 different organizations trying to set things straight with the US customs.

[-] Sailor88@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If what's being evaluated is what's best for the US, buy an alternative product from a US company or from a country that has figured out how to ship.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nonsense. People don't want to pay. We had US customers refuse duties.

What really happened, the minimis has been removed, now everything has duties attached while before it was things over 800 dollars. No business is just going to "eat that cost". It's all being passed down. Express couriers will make it paid up front so most won't notice it there... But cheap services? Customer has to pay it themselves. It's all lack of understanding.

While the cheap service might be 10 dollars, you got to pay 50 dollars in duties in a weeks time. Vs say the 75 dollars express with duties baked in.

But US folk are kept in the dark about it. So they simply don't understand how it works.

[-] baru@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

How would a foreign country collect this in behalf of the US? No system has been setup for this by the US.

EU, UK and others have systems in place to make this possible. The US hasn't.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Unless UPS/DHL have been just pocketing our money, this money is being passed somewhere...

Its not part of my job HOW it's paid, but it is figuring out HOW MUCH is being paid. And I can tell you, it is happening for these two couriers. Feel free to share your professional experience, if you have any.

[-] CazzoBuco@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As someone in logistics software... it ain't pretty

Even if we KNEW all the details, no way do we have enough manpower and system capacity to clear the additional dozens of thousands of shipments that would switch from automatic 86/03 to needing additional clearance details (but we're prepping for it! Only time will tell)

Buckle up America, this week gon be a bumpy ride, and give a lil leeway to the people getting your Temu packages to you, it ain't their choice this is all happening. You know who to blame.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The White House needs to host a tariff API with all the current rates for all the countries for all the things.

I mean… LOL but it would be the sane way to carry out their insane clown show.

[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's the now age old Trump-Tariff faux-paradox ...

Country A has a package to ship to the US ...

The US tells Country A: 'aha tariffs need to be paid"...

Country A says "okay, tell the recipient to pay the tariffs and give us the ok when they did so we can deliver it past your border".

The US gets angry: "no no someone else pays tariffs not us! How dare you put the tariffs on us! Others are supposed to pay!"

Country A mumbles "ok, be that way", returns the package to sender, sender might refund but keeps shipping costs... and the US customer loses out twice.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is why America can't have nice things

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Americans are why Americans can't have nice things.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Expected and actually surprised it happened

[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Wonder if this will effect visas.

[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Credit cards are mailed within the United States.

/s

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah i really don't think the majority of the population realizes how delicate the global trade system is.

Just recently on August 19th, ALL parts with steel or aluminum in them are tariffed an additional 50%. This covers hundreds of thousands of products we all purchase, and there is ZERO chance of them being manufactured in the USA. This will ruin most of the US economy for those parts as prices skyrocket.

Make sure to buy your car parts NOW before the warehouses are empty and they have to reorder at a 50% higher cost. The tariff covers all car parts including oil filters.

The media is very quiet about this, and we all know why.

[-] Sailor88@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Your claims are exaggerated

  • Bloomberg Economics estimates the tariffs will reduce U.S. GDP by 0.15% and increase consumer prices by 0.1% over three years.
  • The expanded tariffs cover 407 specific product categories—but “hundreds of thousands” overstates the scope.
  • The U.S. has domestic steel and aluminum production. Nucor and Cleveland-Cliffs have seen stock price increases, and Minnesota’s iron ore industry has benefited from past tariffs.
  • The media isn't quiet about these issues, you may not understand the issues so you aren't seeing reports to back up your misunderstanding
[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Bloomberg can't make estimates because they don't know where tariffs will end up. No one does, hence the uncertainty that is hurting the market.

407 product categories. Read that again. Not 407 products, categories.

The US imports 44% of its Aluminum and cannot supply that itself within the next decade even with increased investments.

The media is dead silent on thousands of small businesses that have already folded. Thousands more will go out of business in the next year.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2019/us-china-trade-war-tariffs-date-chart

Average US tariffs on Chinese exports now stand at 57.6 percent and cover 100 percent of all goods.

As a result of numerous Trump administration actions, the average US tariff on all goods imports from the rest of the world increased from 3.0 percent to 20.8 percent between January 20, 2025, and August 27. This includes the 10 percent tariff imposed on April 5 that did not simply increase the average tariff by 10 percentage points due to sectoral carveouts. (Notes: On March 4, 2025, the United States imposed new tariffs on certain imports from Canada and Mexico that ultimately did not "claim and qualify for" preferences under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). That tariff change is not reflected here. Furthermore, the US tariff on all goods imports from the rest of the world temporarily increased to 16.2 percent for one day—on April 9—before President Trump, on that same day, reversed some of his tariffs and paused their increase for 90 days. The current average tariff on imports from the rest of the world is now higher than that April 9 peak.

The first Trump administration-imposed tariffs on thousands of products valued at approximately $380 billion in 2018 and 2019, affecting approximately 15 percent of US goods imports. The second Trump administration tariffs threaten all United States goods imports excluding a few categories, mainly USMCA trade (valued at $405 billion of imports in 2024) and certain energy-related and other imports under the April 2 tariffs (valued at $644 billion of imports in 2024, or $459 billion excluding Canada and Mexico).

Sidestepping how incompetent it is to be changing tariff policy daily, yes I would say America imports "hundreds of thousands" of products containing steel/aluminum

Altogether, Trump’s imposed tariffs would raise $2.3 trillion in revenue over the next decade on a conventional basis ($1.5 trillion on a dynamic basis) and reduce US GDP by 0.9 percent, all before foreign retaliation. However, if the IEEPA tariffs are permanently enjoined, it would reduce the total revenue raised by Trump’s tariffs on a conventional basis by $1.8 trillion to $574 billion over 10 years and reduce the negative GDP effect to 0.2 percent.

which is probably where Bloomberg pulled .15% from, and again this doesn't factor in the foreign retaliation to this idiocy,

As of April 4, China, Canada, and the European Union have announced or imposed retaliatory tariffs altogether affecting $330 billion of US exports. Imposed and threatened retaliation as of April 10 will reduce US GDP by another 0.2 percent and 10-year revenue by $132 billion on a dynamic basis.

but also

The US Court of International Trade ruled in May 2025 that the IEEPA tariffs are illegal, but they have been allowed to continue while the case is in appeal.

so a linchpin of this economic 'plan' will be tossed if/when the appeal is up

Trump’s imposed and scheduled tariffs will increase federal tax revenues by $172.1 billion, or 0.57 percent of GDP, making the tariffs the largest tax hike since 1993. The tariffs are larger than the tax increases enacted under President Barack Obama and President George H.W. Bush.

so with all imports being taxed a minimum 10% (from direct consumer to those foreign raw materials those Nucor and Cleveland-Cliffs plants need) I don't see who would defend this money-losing system, unless you're really excited for the federal government to have a larger operating budget for some reason, or you own a Nucor/Cleveland-Cliffs plant where you can push increased costs onto the consumer and ride the stock price up alongside it.

[-] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Let the Murricans fight it out and fix the mess they started. They shouldn't have nice things if they think fascism and fucking up the planet are the way to go.

And yes, I also mean those that didn't actively support Trump but aren't fighting back.

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