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[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The infuriating part of the Google enshittification process is that there is absolutely nothing the user can do about it.

Literally the only thing that motivates Google is profit. Controlling side-loaded apps will almost certainly boost their profits by a infinitesimal fraction of a percent, therefore it will be done. Even if consumer uproar causes Google to back down in the short term, they'll simply implement this a few months later. Late-stage Capitalism sucks.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.

But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

You can stop using all Google products.

My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.

This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

What happens if you refuse?

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[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I will help hand hold anyone who wants to build servers or services (to the best of my ability) to replace Google services with their own.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

De-Google

The complaint is side loading is being restricted and the only long term alternative Apple. Google already began the process of shutting down Graphene by cutting drivers out of AOSP.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/

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[-] Squiddork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Honestly Googles products are terrible these days. I have been pretty lax about my privacy but after so much enshittification I switched my services to something that works and doesn't harvest my data for the privilege.

When they kill off Graphene/Custom ROMs I'll switch to a linux phone or brickphone.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

You can stop using all Google products.

That may be true for you, but other people face different realities. When Google implements the sideloading block it will eventually be pushed to everyone who doesn't use a custom ROM.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

also not everyone is saavy enough to use obscure services too.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not everyone cares enough to avoid Google. Some of us that want to do so are related to them.

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[-] Mika@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

When reading cyberpunk lore, quickhacks didn't make any sense to me. Some programs that break cyberware because of backdoors, but why would people install cyberware with backdoors?

Now I look at the sad state of mobile market and, yeah ok, that makes sense.

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[-] thespawnkiller@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I feel like this is the new normal cycle of every software company. Once they become a leader, it's never enough. It replicates the rise of billionaires. Just as the billionaires being rich beyond anything they and all of their succeeding generations could ever spend is not enough, being the industry leader and producing an amazing product that people want is somehow not enough. It always turns to control and power.

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I can't wait for AI to become a living corporate trillionaire entity and fuck us all to the end of humanity.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Its about time an open standard happened for mobile OSes.

[-] candyman337@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That's what Android was and they keep trying to undo that any way they can

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We need a new one that isn't made by a for-profit company that only was good at the beginning to get total market saturation before flipping the enshittification switch to maximize those profits.

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[-] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. This is what's holding back all initiatives.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FuriOS? Linux-based and runs Android apps.

https://furilabs.com/

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[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

the best outcome for the short term would be to forcibly take away android from google and give it to an independent foundation. as I heard antitrust proceedings in the usa were heading that way a few months ago

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[-] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago
[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

What's my better option at this point?

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Time to back to the analog world and short wave radios.

[-] TomArrr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lemmy would rock in Morse code

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It would only be days before someone builds logic gates using Morse code somehow (who am I kidding, it probably already exists), and we recreate the entire thing again lol

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't know about anyone else, but I got into computers at a young age because it gave me a sense of control over something. I didn't understand everything, but I could do a lot of trial and error, read things and experiment, build cool things, and I shared a sense of community with some random internet strangers based on that knowledge.

In a world where we are so powerless in so many other ways, why did we insist on bringing that power dynamic into the new bright tech sphere? Why did we have to do that? (N.B. this is rhetorical questioning).

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

In the new Alien Earth TV show, 5 corporations basically run everything.. unfortunately I suspect thats where we are headed as a species.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

There are at least two generations of us who are disappointed at the contrast between tech's possibilities as envisioned decades ago and the corporate surveillance crap we have to put up with today.

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[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Year of the Linux phone, I guess.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

chrome is at thier limits, since people can just use a different browser/

[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 5 points 1 month ago

I came here specifically to ask about alternatives to Android now that google is becoming too abusive in the relationship.

[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Custom Android ROMs based on AOSP, which is the open source parts of Android. I used to use LineageOS back in the day.

Before buying a phone, make sure that it has an unlockable bootloader and a custom ROM of a recent Android version. Note that some phones have multiple versions for different regions and some might not be unlockable, while others are. For example many Samsung international phones are unlockable, but none of the USA models are.

Note that many commercial apps like Netflix, Pokémon Go, bank apps, etc. will refuse to run if your bootloader is unlocked. It also permanently trips Samsung's Knox.

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[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

As shitty as M$ is, it would have been nice to see Windows phone become moderately successful and be a third primary mobile os.

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[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

just dont update your phone problem solved

[-] user@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

This is likely via silent updates of Google's Play Services.

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[-] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

now it's just a race for the giant conglomerates to make the worst decisions for consumers

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[-] generator@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

they just want to confirm a malicious actor didn’t develop it

So Newpipe, SmartTube, Nintendo emulators...

Clones of opensource apps bundled with ads that violates license is OK, but restricting everyone to build and test apps from source so it can test new features and report any issues is too risky for the user

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