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[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 months ago

do people actually use color names in webdev?

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 78 points 5 months ago

I sometimes do for testing. Is this css working? I don't know, change the background to red as that will stand out

[-] rooroo@feddit.org 18 points 5 months ago

Red? Hotpink or bust!

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 months ago

You know you're desperate when you bust out that background-color: red

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

When you are wishing you could do !!importanter you know things are getting real desperate

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

me literally every time

EDIT: ~~erm ackshually it shouldve been "!!moreimportant"~~

[-] Dack@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago
[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't, except the "red means testing" scenario. It's 1½ keystrokes less than #f00

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 5 months ago

Red green blue when setting a BG color to remember a layer, but that's it.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Not really, but I feel like grayscale values would have been the most useful still, after black and white.

With colors like orange, blue etc., the hue and lightness play a big role. But with grayscale values, it's pretty much just the lightness you care about, so there's a much higher chance of such a named value fitting what you want...

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Now put the dark grey on a white background and grey on a black background and, tada, dark grey is darker!

Fooled by the human mind itself.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 5 months ago

Gonna open an issue with the W3C to rename gray and darkgray to notwhite and notblack, respectively. I'm sure that will help

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago

Notblack is very problematic language

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

Notblack code lines matter

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago
[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 20 points 5 months ago

I never ever use these names. My guess is they're a carryover from some Web 1.0 rule and not originally specific to CSS.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 months ago

Once at a job when I was supposed to make a website work (and I'll stress, I am not a graphic designer and wasn't hired as one!) I made the layout as nice as I could, but I insisted on only using named CSS colors because I just do. not. care. about color theory. By which I mean, I don't want to waste time and do a crappy job at it when someone else could do it much better and properly and faster. So the named colors are meant as an obvious placeholder for a more creative person to replace with something real later.

When my boss gave me feedback he just said that it's ugly. I started saying "yeah, the colors are placeholders, we can change that easily. I'll fiddle it with it I'll stick with named colors" (above explanation was to follow).

Before I even got to the named colors bit, he interrupted me and said "don't use named colors ever".

I guess maybe I was hired as a graphic designer? News to me!

(I'm making him sound awful but he was actually a really good boss. This interaction is not representative of our usual dynamics. I'm not employed by him anymore but we are on good terms.)

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago

Before I even got to the named colors bit, he interrupted me and said “don’t use named colors ever”.

He recognized the tones. Used to be known as "web friendly" a long time ago.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

X11.

One notable difference between X11 and W3C is the case of "Gray" and its variants. In HTML, "Gray" is specifically reserved for the 128 triplet (50% gray). However, in X11, "gray" was assigned to the 190 triplet (74.5%), which is close to W3C "Silver" at 192 (75.3%), and had "Light Gray" at 211 (83%) and "Dark Gray" at 169 (66%) counterparts. As a result, the combined CSS 3.0 color list that prevails on the web today produces "Dark Gray" as a significantly lighter tone than plain "Gray", because "Dark Gray" was descended from X11 – for it did not exist in HTML nor CSS level 1 – while "Gray" was descended from HTML. Even in the current draft for CSS 4.0, dark gray continues to be a lighter shade than gray. Some browsers such as Netscape Navigator insisted on an "a" in any "Gray" except for "Light Grey".

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

"Gray" with an A looks so wrong to my eyes. I don't think I ever see it used normally.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Grey if it's in England, gray if it's in America."

Same as tire vs tyre, center vs centre and so on.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I am an American living in America, still looks weird.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago

I knew it'd be something like that. Don't try to fix it, would be my advice. BTW my rgb.txt seems to have 2 entries for every tone of grey resp. gray.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

I literally only use them when testing.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 11 points 5 months ago

nah, that's clearly gray-400 and gray-600.

[-] alecsargent@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

I'm not a programmer but using hsl() seems so much easier and intuitive but only once you remember the hue of typical colors. Setting shades from another colours is also easy peasy with variables.

Obviously still setting a background to red/green (named) to test if a selector is correct and general testing.

[-] Klear@quokk.au 1 points 5 months ago

It was implemented by the same guy who named rhinos.

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