US poll finds 60 percent of Gen Z voters back Hamas over Israel in Gaza war (www.middleeasteye.net)

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

back Hamas over Israel

Even here, the setup is false. Anyone remotely affiliated with Hamas is little more than a blood smear on the pavement in Gaza at this point. Israelis are torturing general surgeons to death and calling them Hamas. They're butchering babies and calling them Hamas. They're gunning down European photojournalists and calling them Hamas.

There is no "Hamas" left to support. It's just the stamp Israel puts on the body bag.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Polls are a great way to get the answers you want. I don't know what the pollsters wanted, but to me the question in question is skewed, because one is a state while the other is an organisation.

“In the Israel-Hamas conflict, do you support more Israel or more Hamas?”

So my answer would've been "I support Palestinians in their struggle to have their own country again over Israel which is clearly on an aggressively expansionist rampage."

Since that isn't an option I can refuse to answer the stupid poll, or say I support Hamas.

Shouldn't we explain the nature & history of the struggle instead?

edit: obvious pro/contra Hamas discussion ensues. But IMO it's moot - at least for the foreseeable future - because Israel is so obviously the much bigger monster here, and has been for a long while, and because denying a nation the right to exist simply is not acceptable.

[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

While you're not wrong, I think framing it as "israel-hamas" rather than "israel-palestine" is the least favourable framing available (for a supporter of Palestine) without resorting to really obvious leading questions.

As such, seeing a majority opinion against Israel is encouraging. I'd expect a more nuanced survey to swing more heavily against Israel

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

framing it as “israel-hamas” rather than “israel-palestine” is the least favourable framing available

Isn't that exactly what I said? Maybe my phrasing is off.

[-] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

What the hell kind of apples and oranges headline is that. Israel is a country. Hamas is a political party, not the same as Palestine or Palestinians.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I am American jew. I recently replied to an email from my old synagogue about volunteering in Israel, explaining I have no desire to aid Israel with their Nazi Stockholm manic episode, but to have fun working on the new Holocaust.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That’s because Israel is treating it as such. They are treating Palestine and Hamas equally by killing both. If the question was rephrased as do you support Hamas or Palestine the vast majority would side with Palestine. Most people don’t know the difference between the 2.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Top bad they don't live in a democracy lmao

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Although this question is framed in the shittiest way possible, I would still support Hamas over the IDF because only one of these organizations are guilty of genocide.

Easiest call I've ever made.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

That's disturbing, both sides are POS's.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the enlightenment.

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