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[-] teft@piefed.social 23 points 6 months ago

Anyone who has worked the IT desk knows how users are. Reading is against their beliefs.

[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

The possibility of servicing users that are american scares me…

[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Been working IT at a public school for almost a year, have never once got an answer to the question "and what did the error message say?"

[-] fatalicus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Got a ticket yesterday with the text "I can't install addins in office anymore. I only get this message"

Then they attached an image of office telling them exactly why they can't install addins (optional experiences is disabled) and exactly where to go in the settings to enable it again...

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

A friend asked for some computer help and when I asked him to replicate the problem, he closed the error window before I could read it. I think that was when I gave up helping people with their computer problems.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

yyyy-mm-dd supremacy

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

ISO 8601 FTW

[-] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Rather go with RFC 3339, a standard that is openly available for anyone to read.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I was going to write something sassy, but separating the date and time portion with a T is marginally superior. I love them both!

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 9 points 6 months ago

Hey man, try reading the words on the screen above the inputs.

[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

You ever tried to do that AND be a redditor at the same time?

Tsk... these elitist lemmings... smh.

[+] monogram@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

ISO 8601 supremacy.

YYYY/MM/DD

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Hear me out

There are an infinite number of years*

So stating the year first brings you down from infinite to 356.25 days, on average.

If we then specify the month, we are down to 30** days

But if we instead specify the day. We get down to 12** days, instead!

TLDR: yyyy/dd/MM reduces our search space faster than yyyy/MM/dd.

However, it’s also stupid.

true for our purposes, here ** ish

[-] notabot@piefed.social 1 points 6 months ago

TLDR: yyyy/dd/MM reduces our search space faster than yyyy/MM/dd.

This fact makes makes me irrationally angry for some reason, and I blame you for making me think about it!

However, it’s also stupid.

Thank goodness for that!

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I like my dates sorted by how likely it is that I need that information.

Most things I refer to by date happen in the current year and the current month. So using day first means in many cases I can stop right there.

If something's not happening this month, then it's likely to happen in the current year, thus month next. And only if that fails I need to put a year.

Following the same logic, you get the opposite for time:

Most things referred to by time happen sometime today but likely not within the same hour (otherwise I'd rather say "In 10 minutes"). And often the hour is precise enough and I don't need minutes. So hour first.

If hours are not exact enough, minutes likely are, so minutes next. And only when that is not precise enough will I mention seconds or milliseconds.

This gives me a format of dd.mm.yyyy and hh:mm:ss.msms

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Some people are just too enamoured by the yyyy mm dd format they just cannot see the pros of the dd mm yyyy system

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Because it's not actually superior. You just haven't dealt with hundreds of thousands (millions, billions) of timestamps in one table, for example

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

It doesn’t have to be superior in every case to fit some use cases better. They probably won’t ever need to work with hundreds of thousands of date stamps, so why should they select a date system based on that?

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I would argue that it is superior once you have prefixed three files from two months with a date.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I literally never do that. I don’t even know what type of file a person would save under just a date- screen grabs from security footage maybe? I use names, because I can already sort by the creation date and I won’t know what each file is without a name.

Again, each person uses dates differently and it would be silly for me to prefer that one because it might be better when doing something I’ve never done.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I often like to differentiate between edit date and creation date. Also depending on a file is transferred the date might be reset to the current date.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Oh yes because I look at millions of timestanps on a daily basis?

I never said the system you use is not better for certain use cases.

I just said that you are too into it to realise the dd mm system just works better for everyday life and common people.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

While this problem is dumb, you could eliminate the class of user errors by having months be selected by name

[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Done…

[-] guy@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago

Oh no

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

New month names just dropped:

Joctober
Novemy
Deculyary
Febrarch
Munepril
Septanugust

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Perfection

[-] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Ah yes the month of febroctougust

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago

Technically, we can eliminate this class of user errors by holding up YYYY-MM-DD as the one true method of dating and smite the nonbelievers.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

We're generally not allowed to smite the end users at work, satisfying as that may have been.

We can mostly just hope to keep that standard within the codebase, and seek alternative means of eliminating error classes for end users

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

clearly its the month of SMARCH. or smapril.

[-] kubica@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

People born in the first 12 days of any given month live happier.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

But gets the date all wrong. Except for a subset of them...

[-] kubica@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Don't worry, be happy.

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