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Is there something like GitHub, but without big tech involvement, no data collection, no ads, open source, and preferably decentralized (maybe Fediverse or even P2P)? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by fajre@lemmy.world to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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[-] artiman@piefed.social 132 points 4 months ago

Yes, codeberg, and it's going to be decentralized soon when forgejo implements federation

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 55 points 4 months ago

You can self host forgejo as well.

[-] fajre@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Yes, codeberg, and it’s going to be decentralized soon when forgejo implements federation

amazing!

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

Well soon is a few years though

[-] artiman@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago

Yes but it's the closest to decentralization, GitLab could implement it quicker with their money, but they chose not to because of the greed of their for profit parents

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[-] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 60 points 4 months ago

Yes, Codeberg/Forgejo or even self-hosting a git server. Git itself is decentralized and self-hostable.

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

Git itself is decentralized and self-hostable.

This is true but Git is nothing like GitHub really

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[-] caos@anonsys.net 54 points 4 months ago

@fajre @Codeberg ist "a non-profit, community-led organization that helps free and open source projects prosper. Our services include Git hosting (using @forgejo ), Weblate, Woodpecker CI and Pages."

[-] fajre@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

@fajre @Codeberg ist “a non-profit, community-led organization that helps free and open source projects prosper. Our services include Git hosting (using @forgejo ), Weblate, Woodpecker CI and Pages.”

interesting man, i'll try!

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago

Forgejo is an activitypub-enabled Git forge software, and codeberg is one of the largest forgejo instances.

Tangentially related, but git-annex, and, in particular, its sync subcommand are a great tool for storing files and managing git repos across multiple machines (and even just loose drives) in a "P2P" way without any centralised server

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Forgejo is an activitypub-enabled Git forge software, and codeberg is one of the largest forgejo instances.

Thank you for this explainer, that's cool as fuck!

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago

I self-host forgejo, it's one of the easiest systems I self-host.

But which features other than a plain git repo are you looking for? That will mostly determine your options. There are tons of git repos, and even just a plain git repo on a server with an ssh tunnel is enough if you don't need anything beyond that.

[-] fajre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I self-host forgejo, it’s one of the easiest systems I self-host.

But which features other than a plain git repo are you looking for? That will mostly determine your options. There are tons of git repos, and even just a plain git repo on a server with an ssh tunnel is enough if you don’t need anything beyond that.

My main goal is to stay independent from big tech and have full control over my data, but I’m still new to programming (2/8 in Software Engineering).

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, forgejo will give you many of the features of GitHub. Not the proprietary ones like the Actions Marketplace of course, but a lot of equivalent features. It's lightweight enough though that even if you never use it for anything beyond git, creating pull requests, and some basic CI, it's not going to require much power to run it.

Do you need the public to have access to it? That would be the only reason for federation that I could think of. That's not available quite yet.

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

+1 for forgejo

The only requirement of yours it doesn't hit is "decentralized", since you'd likely be self-hosting it. If you're looking to host git repos, you're likely technical enough to fire up a foregjo container in Docker and go wild with it. Just make sure you have a plan for backups, and you're good.

[-] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Theyr're working on the federation too.

[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I have questions like this, I tend to check this site first. You can also filter the results based on your criteria.

[-] fajre@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

OMG, I didn’t know this site, thanks man!

[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 4 points 4 months ago

Glad I could help! Have fun with all the alternatives to everything.

[-] jutty@blendit.bsd.cafe 18 points 4 months ago

https://radicle.xyz/ fits your description

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[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 months ago

Maybe not exactly what you are after, but: https://sr.ht/

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[-] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago

I can’t believe no one said anything about Radicle ? https://radicle.xyz/

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

A lot

https://alternativeto.net/software/github/?license=opensource

[-] notabot@piefed.social 9 points 4 months ago

Git itself is that for the DVCS part, it's easy to host and is decentralized. I haven't used it myself, but hubzilla seems to support wikis and forums in a distributed way. If you needed to, you could manage issues in forums, although it feels like there should be somethings.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 4 months ago

Forgejo
Gitlab
Gitea
Codeberg

I'm sure there's more

[-] breadguy@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago

codeberg is forgejo

[-] backgroundcow@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

On server:

git init --bare ~/projects/project.git

On client:

git clone username@server:projects/project.git

[-] poldy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

fossil-scm.org

My new favourite tool.

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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

No one has mentioned Gitea yet, is there a reason? Genuinely asking.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago

Gitea has gone open core; it is still free software but its development is controlled by a for-profit company which is developing non-free features. So, Forgejo is the community-run fork of it which people outside the Gitea company are contributing to instead now. You can read more about their divergence here.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Thank you!

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wonder when people (especially companies) learn that with open source projects, it's the community and contributors who are in charge and not the "owner". The moment you do something the community doesn't like, they'll fork the project, migrate, and your project is left in the dust.

Few examples off the top of my head - CyanogenMod/LineageOS. Maps me/Organic Maps/CoMaps. OpenOffice/LibreOffice.

If your company/business/project depends on user content, don't piss off the users.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Try GitLab. They're independent and free of trackers according to Brave Shields. Though keep an eye out for the storage limits, since GitLab makes you quickly realize that, unlike GitHub, they don't have unlimited storage.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

GitLab, I am not sure if their own installation hits all points (depends on what you define as "big tech involvement" maybe), but if you self-host it, certainly.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Big projects like Tor actually use GitLab, as well, which is a vote of confidence. Some of these other ones don't have the same obvious maturity.

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[-] Sims@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I haven't tried it but Radicle sounds cool ? Radicle is an open source, peer-to-peer code collaboration stack built on Git. Unlike centralized code hosting platforms, there is no single entity controlling the network. Repositories are replicated across peers in a decentralized manner, and users are in full control of their data and workflow.

There are some dev/repo tools, but I don't know how they compare with commercial platforms.