If I remember correctly, Casper went also missing for a few days - he was hunting the remaining coyotes to finish the job.
For those wondering, Casper continued to do well, and won 'Farm dog of the year' in '23.
https://www.fb.org/in-the-news/usa-today-meet-casper-peoples-choice-pup-winner
Coyotes are actually pretty small, if it was wolves it would be a different story and if it was wolverines he'd be dead and if it was X-Men wolverine he would be Rogue'd:
Casper weighted 85 lbs. The average coyote is ±35 lbs.
Imagine fighting off 11 Baboons and killing 8 with your bare hands in a single night. Because that's the equivalent.
I don't think we he was arguing that it wasn't impressive insomuch as the pictured animals are wolves and he absolutely would have lost that fight.
Disclaimer: I'm not actually what the one on the right is, but the one on the left is definitely a wolf.
arent non-human primates like insanely strong? its more like killing eight 7th graders with your bare hands
Yeah. If we think of gorillas as the T-Rex of the primate world, then on paper baboons are pretty much the velociraptors. About half the weight of a human, really fast, and packing 6 inch canines.
so if gorillas are t-rexes and baboons are the velociraptors, what would humans be? or, say, rhesus monkeys?
It's easier if you don't like sand.
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I was 6' tall in 7th grade, and no, I wasn't held back. I'm still 6' tall now. I didn't do any vertical growing after the summer between 6th/7th grades.
still nowhere near strong enough to take on a fully grown adult human male im sure lol
Good question. I didn't have occasion to test it. If we assume a good herd dog is roughly equivalent to Joe Rogan in his prime, I likely would have died though, yeah.
If we assume a good herd dog is roughly equivalent to Joe Rogan in his prime
...wait, are we rewriting Rogan into a top fighter, now? He didn't even compete after his teenage years, did he?
Not saying I could get as close as even touching the man, to be clear, but let's not act like he fought professionally for years
joe rogan is literally 5'3"
wtf, really? I always remember him being close in size to contestants on fear factor. Was that all trickery, or did I just never notice?
its a meme but also yeah pretty much. camera angles help a lot. he was on some sasquatch show and it was comical how small he looked compared to the other ppl. but mostly its a meme to say he's literally 5'3"
Yeah but most 11 year olds aren't anywhere near 6'
Herd dogs were bred to protect the herd. While many may show a more gentle demeanor most days, when the time comes, they are absolute machines.
Funnily enough, I live close to DeKalb. Great Pyrenees are one of the more common herd dogs around here, and are a great example of gentle giants that will crush throats. They adopt just about anything smaller than they are, treat anything they see as their territory, and are known for tracking coyotes for miles just to exterminate them all for fucking with their stock.
It doesn't end with their herd, either. They can be highly responsive to their owners. You start showing any signs of tension, they will put themselves between you and whatever is bothering you.
It doesn’t end with their herd, either. They can be highly responsive to their owners. You start showing any signs of tension, they will put themselves between you and whatever is bothering you.
Well I can't get one because the fucker would try to wedge itself between my brain and the bottom of my skull
Well, do I have a fun fact for you then: Cheetahs are such anxious and easily stressed animals that zoos consistently failed to set up breeding programs until somebody had a bright idea and paired up a cheetah cub with a golden retriever puppy to be raised together.
Growing up with a lifelong friend in such a chill and loving dog breed allows them to live a lot less anxiously, and has been so successful with keeping cheetahs happy and healthy that the practice has been adopted all over the place.
Dogs are full of love and want to help, even if that's by simply existing in the same space as you.
Cheetahs are just so wonderfully weird. Basically big housecats that are also rocket powered apex predators.
Also, I love The Cheetah Whisperer.
Cheetahs are so weird largely because they're actually not apex predators and are surrounded by so many bigger predators! From lions and leopards to packs of wild dogs or hyenas, there are plenty of animals that can take down a cheetah pretty easily. Especially because they're so overbuilt for that burst of speed that that's basically the one trick that they have. They're super easily bullied out of their meals by other animals, including scavengers. I think this is why they're so chill with people, though. Because if we're not running at them or away from them, then we're not predator or prey, and must be some secret third thing - friend shaped! Kinda like how we're the only other bipedal animal in the Antarctic besides penguins, so penguins largely see us as just weird-looking penguins and will hop into boats with people and stuff.
That's a trick many/most breeds of dog can pull off. It's amazing how well a wet nose, and a slobbery smile shoved in your face can break a bad cycle.
There's a reason they are used as emotional support animals so often. They can guard us from ourselves almost as well as this dog did the sheep from coyotes.
My dog is usually a chaos demon but if you’re feeling particularly down she will grab one of her toys and keep pushing it into your hands until you play with her as a distraction. Dogs are incredibly emotionally sensitive and empathetic and sometimes that wet snuffling nose is the only thing that gets me out of bed
Unless you just gave birth apparently. I guess its common for new mothers to get extremely agitated by their beloved dogs for any noise or sound they make
...It's common for new mothers to get extremely agitated at... Everything
You would be too, caring for a new born is fucking exhausting.
Hell, just giving birth in and of itself is enough to kick off survival instincts of "Scare everything the fuck off before it can even try me right now". It's incredibly taxing on the body, both in energy used and physical damage.
Then you're just kinda thrown into keeping this screaming sack of potatoes that was just violently removed from your body alive quite quickly.
Ohh yeah been there, done that.
My first definitely had a "Wait. I can just leave? Who's going to help me take care of it".
It's often one way or the other. "Get away from me!", or "more babies!" Pregnancy hormones do a complete number on the mother. That's before having a parasite attached to you near 24/7, demanding your attention, day or night!
Interestingly, her pheromones can do a similar job on any males around her (both human and dog). That was an interesting surprise.
"Are you really going to die, to save a sheep?
"Someone is"
That's another terrifying thing about when they're on the hunt. They have been found in near-death states, still fighting.
So sometimes that "someone" is everyone involved.
and are known for tracking coyotes for miles just to exterminate them all for fucking with their stock.
"It was just a fucking sheep!"
"you can either hand over the perpetrator, or you can die screaming alongside them!"
There is no choice. There is only kill.
I am not kidding when I say they are akin to a Terminator. Their only thought is to eliminate the threat until there is no threat left. Rip and tear, until it is done.
They can be highly responsive to their owners. You start showing any signs of tension, they will put themselves between you and whatever is bothering you.
When we watch my sisters dog, my wife has to use a vibrating collar for the dog. He reacts to everything as a potential threat to her, and that ramps up with my kids being there.
If its just me walking him, he tends to just be a roaming doofus. If I add in our (little and much older) dog, he's fine until the moment our dog reacts.
Its actually extremely wild to me just how responsive they are to those around them.
Edit: Forgot to mention, he's a mutt - consisting of like 7 different herding breeds common to the southern US. He's also well over a hundred lbs, and the goodest boy (of the lovable idiot variety).
He also has zero response to my kids, they can lay next to him, on him, whatever, his only interest is looking out for them. And treats.
They're also not deferential or clingy like a lot of dogs (and honestly, why a lot of people want a dog).
Pyrs/Maremmas have a job to do and they don't want to sit around being scratched while staring into your eyes.
That dog is at least part Great Pyrenees, and those dogs were bred to protect livestock from wolves and bears. We had them growing up, my parents still keep a couple. It's not unusual to wake up to 4-5 dead coyotes in your yard.
Is coyote meat any good?
Probably not. Most nonaquatic predators are awful tasting and very unhealthy to eat due to the buildup of heavy metals and other nasty stuff from further down the food chain.
Ah, figures. Otherwise it could be a source of free meat.
The comment is not entirely correct, it’s more if it’s a scavenging predator or live hunter. Something picky for food they have hunted themselves like a mountain lion can be amazing meat, or a bear feasted on berries or live fish. But if they’ve been scavenging like a bear with dead fish and garbage or a coyote, it can be horrible meat. Depends on species too as well as diet.
Sorry mate, but any first year biology student learns that the higher up the food chain the more concentrated the heavy metals are. Take Tuna. As free range as you can get but it is advised to minimize consumption, particularly when pregnant, due to the high mercury content.
While lifestyle does affect palatability of the meat (Bear near the dump always tastes 'off') it is more a question of 'what' is being bioaccumulated, not 'if'. In your example scavengers are bioaccumulating pesticides and preservatives, whereas the successful predator accumulates all the heavy metals its prey, and their prey, and their prey (repeat until the bottom of the tree) consumed.
You can't get around it. All high level predators have shitty meat, whether it tastes bad or not.
‘Erm actually’ They asked if coyote ‘the species of animal’ is good mean. ‘Good’ here meaning obviously palatability. Heavy metal accumulation can also depend on region, which wasn’t part of their question.
“All high level predators have shitty meat” My lord man, cougar meat is PRIZED, any hunting community will tell you that.
Isn't it all in the way you cook it?
There are ways to make meat taste ‘better’ But if there is some odd flavour sitting in a meat, sometimes it’s not worth it to try and find something to cover it. Also a difference between meat texture, humans don’t tend to like gamy tough meat, usually some level of fat to it, and coyotes fighting with sheepdogs have most likely not been getting fat. I wouldn’t want to deal with coyote meat unless in a survival situation
Assuming it's similar to dog: No, it's quite nasty, but there's people in Switzerland who probably consider it a delicacy.
Those coyotes didn’t expect to meet the Good Boi of DeKalb, Woofer of Woe, the Hound Who Watches the Herd. Legends says no coyote can kill him and he can lift three sheep in his mouth
They were also inner Atlanta coyotes, they aren't exactly the most fierce. Casper is still a badass tho
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