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[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

In the speech he said

"As history teaches us, the only people who actually deserve peace are those who are willing to wage war to defend it. That's why pacifism is so naive and dangerous. It ignores human nature and ignores human history. Either you protect your people and your sovereignty or you become subservient to something or someone. "

That sounds like an invitation for true patriots to "fix" the current administration.

[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The most dangerous person is the world, is one convinced of their own righteousness.

They love to talk tough about 2A, and the three boxes of freedom, and peace thru power, right up until someone takes them up on it.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Four boxes of freedom. Soap box is frequently forgotten about. Soap box, jury box, ballot box, ammo box.

[-] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 0 points 2 weeks ago

I sure hope some of the military try is a coup from the army be that bad at this point?

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it would be that bad. Please look at Myanmar right now. You do NOT want a Military Junta or a Military Dictatorship. You think civil liberties are being eroded quickly now?! Shiiiiit

[-] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 0 points 2 weeks ago

I see what you mean but you have the risk of turning like myanmar if a junta happen or the near 100% chance of becoming a white christofascists techno hellhole with some north korea dictatorship sprinkle on it

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

You're literally describing the United States post-9/11, the only difference is that they've gone mask off. We've been in a christofascist techno hellhole sprinkled with North Korea dictatorship this entire time. We effectively have one party with two (slightly different) wings (both right wing, though), and did you really think it was normal to pledge allegiance to the flag of your country every single day while slurping down Department of Education approved propaganda?

The military junta would not be a better set of circumstances. It would be exactly like right now only more extreme, considering all of the top military brass is also a bunch of christofascists

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Um, yes? Have you read the Patriot Act? Are you aware of the PRISM program from NSA? What about our immigration policy which is just a passed-down-the-line version of the Bush era immigration policy? This stuff didn't start with Trump. It's been ramping up for a while.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes.

It is much much worse now.

The parties are not even remotely the same. One sucks. The other wants to fucking kill Americans on american soil with American troops to crush any and all opposition.

[-] easybre_bb@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Those who will never see war in person sure like to push for more war.

[-] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Why don’t the Presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?

[-] pigup@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

This is a recurring theme in human history.

Considering everyone in the room knows the Commander in Chief wouldn't be able to pass the basic reading tests for recruits, I'd say this just doesn't hit home as well as they all hope it does.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Considering how dead silent the room apparently was, I'd say you are right.

[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

So we're back to bombing for peace.

Like fucking for virginity.

Fuck these clowns. Vote. Every. Single. Election.

School boards and mayors and locals, too.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

"I love peace. I don't care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it."

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

You’re assuming 2026 is happening.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago

Why are you so eager to give up?

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

I am medical. If people start shooting each other (more than they are already) I know my role already.

In terms of everything currently happening, every time someone says “vote” that feels like giving up in the right now while no election is happening. “Vote” says: just wait. Go sit down and wait. Take a nap, even, just wait. None of this matters, we’ll just “vote” later. There’s no action to be had, go read a book or something.

I’m not the one professing a “give up” strategy here.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We knew all of this in 2024, and people couldn’t be bothered to stop it. Now they have full control, and certainly enough to either stop elections from happening or to rig it.

If you think full-blown fascists will allow a democratic process to take their power when they’ve already seized all the levers of government and can stop us, you’re mistaken. That’s why it was so important to prevent it when we had the chance.

It’s too late. The only way to stop it now will be to take it from them by force. Literally all of history shows that.

Unfortunately, the will to do that won’t exist until they’ve already committed the atrocities they’ve been planning.

e: he got away with an attempted insurrection the last time he lost. No way he won’t dial that up to 11 next time. Why wouldn’t he, and preemptively? And why won’t he get away with far worse?

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well you don't gotta make it easy for him. Imagine if people went "well. I guess he gets to stay in office" after that event.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Making it easy for him is thinking voting has a chance of fixing this now.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago

So you're going to tell people to not vote??

You do realize how that makes things worse, right?

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, obviously.

I’m going to tell people to do more than just vote, and to not think voting alone is adequate.

It’s not a hard concept. We are fighting honest to goodness, full-blown fascism now. No joke, no hyperbole. Of course you should still vote, but you also need to know that voting is no longer enough. It was always the bare minimum, and now we need to do more than that, because they will not give up power to the vote.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Also we're not paying any of your soldiers starting tomorrow, good luck with morale while you prep unpaid men to commit war crimes again

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

God, I hope it’s the war on Christmas! I’ve been waiting so long for that!

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

My favourite bit of all of this.

The Defense Secretary pointed to his own regimen as an example. “It all starts with physical fitness and appearance,” he said. “If the Secretary of War can do regular, hard PT [physical training], so can every member of our joint force.”

“Today at my direction, every member of the joint force, at every rank, is required … [to] meet height and weight requirements twice a year every year,” Hegseth added.

Someone remind me what fat orange bag of festering mayonnaise if at the top of these joint forces. I forget his name. I don't really see him doing jumping jacks.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, this is a great idea. We should all get on Social Media and challenge the Snowflake-in-chief's ability to do the jumping jacks he is asking his troops to do. Taunt him with old videos of Jack LaLanne, since he seems stuck in the 80's culturally. With any luck, the problem will solve itself.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

He literally said he can't even walk without being careful so he doesn't fall down, and he's acused exercise of shortening the lifespan because you have a finite number of heartbeats or something. In other words, the troops are expendable because shortening their lifespans through exercise is perfectly acceptable. Some animals are more equal and all that.

[-] SlurryBravo@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why would a height requirement need to be checked twice a year?

[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't make sense. Shorter soldiers have smaller hitboxes.

Source: N64 Goldeneye Oddjob

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

There are fat service members in BCP that probably PT harder than any of these fucks in charge.

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm guessing Hegseth actually does workout regularly. It's part of his Master Race schtick. He likes to look good while showing off his white supremacy tattoos.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder what sort of cocktails he has before a workout. Probably, some come in a syringe.

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 0 points 2 weeks ago

And Congress authorized a war....when, exactly?

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I guess you missed the memo. War is peace.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

War against who?

War against who, motherfucker? 🪿

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Venezuela, and anyone in the US who is to the left of Charlie Kirk.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe a little against Greenland (Denmark) and Canada too, as a treat.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

He's definitely coming for Canada. You can tell how much Trump wants us by how often he says he does. He said it again just a couple days ago.

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