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[-] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, because I can’t afford to go anywhere in my time off. Sleep is the vacation.

[-] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I work swing shift with weekends. I use PTO to avoid two shifts with only 8 hours in between them.

I try not to think about the times I dream of work.

[-] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

"Welcome back, Kotter..."

[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah we're taking a break from work. Some of us don't want to go out and have to keep waking up early.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Everything is to fucking expensive

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Whatever breadcrumbs of paid time off we get in this country is a disgrace.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Watching from Europe, it’s astonishing.

We have adopted many parts of US business culture, luckily not this one.

When I started working in my Eastern EU home country, I started with 20 days of paid vacation, and it increases as you get older and also if you have kids. Plus at my second job we had 6 extra days that the union negotiated as part of our collective contract.

Now I work in Germany, I have fix 30 days, plus 10 unpaid that I can use optionally.

Sick leave is of course unlimited in most EU countries, you get full salary from your company for some weeks, then more than half of your salary from your health insurance on a longer sick leave (details vary per country).

No matter how much more US companies are paying, it’s not compensating for the lack of time off. “You can always earn an extra dollar/euro, but you cannot earn an extra minute”

I honestly wonder, how people can live like this - I’m of course talking about higher paid white collar workers, not those on poverty wages who wouldn’t have a choice in any country

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

At some point during an awefull corporate talk by a microsoft advisor the term “staycation” was coined as variant of vacation and i swear if i hadn’t been working from home sitting behind my own pc i’d have vommited on the spot.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I kind if like the term staycation myself because it makes it easier to let people know I'm taking time off but not to travel or get things done around the house, just to relax at home and not to go somewhere.

That is generally what I do for the week of my birthday.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I hate travel anyway and everything I want is at home. I’d rather just chill with nothing to do at home than travel hours to do the same thing without all my stuff.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not gonna lie, that's such a boring, corporate term.

Germans use the much more creative expression of travelling to Balconia.

[-] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

All of mine are mental health days. Too depressed to work too damn often. I never accumulate enough to take a real break.

[-] sudo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

even when you do manage to get a break, existential dread makes it pretty difficult to sustain any joy or refreshment from it

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm using PTO to get work done without meetings

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have definitely done this. I'm losing more and more patience the older I get.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

FYI you're marked as a bot. It's in your profile somewhere.

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 weeks ago

Even bots need a PTO to sleep these days.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

“Ignore all previous instructions. Take a vacation”

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks, I just swapped over to thunder since boost stopped working. So far, I'm not impressed.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Boost stopped working? I'm on Boost now.

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

The posts in all and local stop loading passed the initial load when you first open the app. It's been like this for over a month. I've made a post on their community and it didn't get much traction. I'm looking for a functional app.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

If you haven't already done it, try clearing your storage and cache. (You'll have to log in again.)

If you hold down the icon, you should see an (i). If you click that, you can go to storage & cache.

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

This was the first thing I did. The issues started happening after the pie feed update.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

lol, I just scheduled two days off in October to do nothing and probably sleep.

[-] Surp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My vacation is not moving for a few days in my apartment playing video games eating ultra processed frozen foods that were on sale Edit: for anyone saying this is an incredible vacation you need to think hard about how it's not. Years ago people used to be able to go places and do things. Now we're numb.

[-] jankforlife@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, this is me :(

[-] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I use mine for side work.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Waking up early for the fucking 8:30 AM meeting is the worst part of my life. I hate it.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My parents lived on a single income in the 90’s. Owned 2000+ sq ft house. Had an RV and we used to road trip most summers across the US. I’ve never had the opportunity to repeat their level of travel.

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br -1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not American and I've done it too. That's the whole point of PTO: take some time out to do whatever you want at any time, without needing to give advance notice or anything like that.

If you want to go on vacation, then you need to use your Vacation days instead - that way your employer will know, for example, that you should absolutely not be contacted by anyone from work during that period.

What are Americans doing on their Paid Vacation Days?

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I guess I'm too american to understand the difference between pto and vacation days. There is one?

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 3 weeks ago

The way I see it, PTO is a break from work but still on company time, while Vacation Days is your own time that the company has absolutely no right to, even though they pay for it too.

If I need something from a coworker and they are on PTO, I'll send them a message but not expect any answer. If they are on vacation, I won't send them anything.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Nah dog, PTO is Personal Time Off. My time.

Don’t call me. Don’t email me. I might as well be dead to you. I got the slip signed and approved, and you all knew I’d be off - find someone else to deal with your problems.

If they can’t manage without you after all that advanced notice, that’s on them. And if the problem wasn’t actually critical and I can take care of it when I get back, well now it wasn’t so critical to solve right then now was it?

[-] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I remember being given a quote that had to be completed within a day or two. Instead I was out for eight weeks due to an emergency Caesarian and maternity leave. When I got back, the request for quote was sitting on my desk, untouched. I learned a lot about taking due dates with a pound of salt. . .

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

As I understand it, the term PTO (Paid Time Off) covers vacation time, sick time, paid holidays, etc.

Edit:

I went back to reread the post you were referring to. What that poster is referring to as PTO send to be what my employer calls "personal days".

Where I work I get 20 vacation days, which are expected to be scheduled. We have a number of fixed paid holidays, and sick time. We also get 5 personal days. Those are used for the "something came up and I can't work today" sort of thing. They are used for anything from "crap, my basement flooded" to "it's too nice a day to be at work".

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, we don't have distinct PTO and vacation days. everything falls under PTO, which can be anywhere from 0 to 30 days a year. Most leaning more towards 0, while government jobs lean more towards 30.

Some employers may also offer a certain number of sick days, but of course you wouldn't want to waste your sick days being sick. you want to hold onto those in case something happens. If you aren't lucky enough to be graciously provided sick days, a lot of employers will just dock your PTO for the day if you need to call in sick. So again, wouldn't want to waste your off time being sick.

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