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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Everyone say it with me, "Luigi Mangione is an innocent man being framed by the government because they were unable to find the real culprit."

#free Luigi

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 1 points 1 week ago

I'm really not convinced that's the case. Either way I want him to walk free. Killing the CEO was the morally right thing to do. That CEO has been part of the system that has murdered thousands/millions out of pure greed.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Well hold on. Being convinced of one's innocence isn't how that works. You have to be convinced that the evidence brought forward is sufficient to support the accusations. I have yet to see anything sufficiently convincing.

Taking it from the top, the only legitimate evidence you have to go on must be gathered from the scene of the crime. DNA, gunpowder, fingerprints. That sort of thing. But the only evidence is that they found an Italian in New York? Be so fucking for real. Remember, the backpack was reported to be discarded several times. Law enforcement couldn't even agree on WHERE the final backpack was sourced. And even IF the backpack did belong to Luigi, none of what was inside is proof that he stood where the shooter stood. There is no proof physically connecting him to the point in space where the shooting occurred. That's the only evidence I care about. You need to rationalize the lack of evidence connecting luigi to that physical spot in New York.

The CCTV footage is spotty and inconsistent. That's like LAPD losing a car in a high speed chase, not being able to see the license plate and catching some random guy who drives the same model car several days later.

They found an Italian in New York. That's the only thing I've been convinced of.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 1 week ago

I agree with you in theory, but I think we should all pretend he's actually innocent

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Don’t know how much pretending needs to be done, burden of proof is on the state and their evidence gathering was laughable, also not a single McDonald’s employee in the history of the universe has intentionally called the pigs, they all have drugs in their jackets and they’ll just come over the counter and fight you. Some mysterious do gooder called in a guy sitting quietly that led directly to the “shooter” and fully intact weapon ready to scoop up? Fuck outta here with that

Then again, we’re just playing Calvinball with the law now so who knows.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

As a member of a jury, you absolutely have the right to refuse to indict. Just make sure you don't mention jury nullification during the jury selection process. Judges and prosecutors hate that.

[-] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

How many times can he be retried for the same crime if the Jury does that? As I fully expect Trump to demand the DOJ keep doing it as many times as they can

[-] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If I were on the Jury hes innocent. My grandma died from a bad premium.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I doubt the defense would go that route but I'm really curious how it would turn out. Like you're allowed to use deadly force to save a life, and it could be reasonably argued that hundreds, maybe thousands of lives were saved in the aftermath of the shooting.

Realistically there's no way that can be allowed to be a legal precident, but it would be funny to try.

[-] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My grandfather was about to be kicked out of his nursing home by united. Then the shooting happened amd they "noticed" that his care was actually still covered.

[-] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

So, you really think that a new CEO will act any differently? No lives were saved. The problem is the system. Not an individual CEO.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, insurance companies knee jerk approved a shitload of claims they would have normally denied. Even if that's been "fixed," the positive effect happened and was not negligible.

[-] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Honestly the death penalty is cruel. The government should not be executing people.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Mostly he'll avoid the death penalty because he didn't do it. Trump's comments just make it a bit easier.

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If anyone is to get the death penalty—which I’m against—it should be the people calling for him to get the death penalty.

[-] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

He is innocent, obviously a patsy when they could not find the real culprit.

The pictures from the crime scene do not match, if the eyebrows do not fit you cannot convict.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

I think he’s guilty and they only caught him through illegal means, and they realized they can’t reconstruct legal evidence so they have to smear him.

My thoughts as well.

I heard someone told the cashier where they caught him “hey that’s the CEO assassin guy, you should call it in and get the reward!”

Reeks of illegal surveillance.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

It's called "parallel construction".

The police obtained some evidence illegally and inadmissably, so they pretend they got it somewhere else.

I've worked in fast food. There is zero chance someone at that McDonald's called in a tip like they said.

[-] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would vote not guilty no matter what if I was on his jury. Billionaires and major corporate CEOs need to live in fear for how they treat people. They kill tons of people with their callousness and greed.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Death penalty for a murder of a single persons seems harsh. I’m anti death penalty 100% of the time, though.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

This particular murder is a challenge to the rule of law as a basic principle in a way that, for example, multiple murders by a serial killer are not. The serial killer does more direct harm, but IMO this murder requires more forceful repudiation by society.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe if the rule of law was doing it's fucking job and punishing these insurance bastards like they deserve randos wouldn't have to gun them down in the street. Society should be grateful SOMEONE did something about it.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

From what I've been hearing, society IS grateful.

Just not the billionaires, and the media they control is how they voice it.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

Why I think we should give this man a trophy and a lifetime supply of chocolate. Anybody that kills the Nazi should be given the same treatment that our world war II soldiers were given. Fucking ticker tape parade for this motherfucker.

[-] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Idontcare@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know if they did, but I sure did. That was fantastic.

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